#1 By: Mark Frauenfelder, February 18th, 2014 17:09
#2 By: adonai, February 18th, 2014 17:39
#3 By: crashproof, February 18th, 2014 18:03
If I learned one thing from Settlers of Catan, it's that with enough wheat you can build anything.
#4 By: Cathy, February 18th, 2014 18:04
Why does michael goodwin hate America?
#5 By: teapot, February 18th, 2014 20:12
This is the best frame for sure.
#6 By: Jeremy Erwin, February 18th, 2014 20:48
I'd love to hear Paul Krugman's opinion of this strip.
#7 By: Jon Sowden, February 18th, 2014 20:53
probably something along the lines of
#8 By: Stefan Jones, February 18th, 2014 21:11
I like that panel too, but it makes things problematical as to who I send a link to the strip to. This makes a "scholarly" strip seem partisan.
I have one friend who could REALLY stand to read the comic, but once he hits that page the "COMMIE!" flag will go up.
#9 By: Boundegar, February 18th, 2014 21:30
Because he hates our freedom, duh.
#10 By: teapot, February 18th, 2014 21:35
There a a lot more people on this earth to befriend
I agree it makes it more partisan but at the same time, that's really how the teabaggers look to outsiders.
#11 By: robotmonkeys, February 18th, 2014 21:38
Or Robert Reich's opinion.
#12 By: Jeremy Erwin, February 18th, 2014 21:52
Krugman's expertise is in international trade, though.
#13 By: Tlwest, February 19th, 2014 01:23
For a comic with a lot of pictures of rich guys with cigars, it was rather more balanced than I would have expected.
I'm not a big fan of what the TPP is likely to bring, but I will say that fast-tracking is pretty much the only way to negotiate a treaty. If you're not going to fast-track, don't bother wasting money and time on negotiations that cannot be passed. That's simply dealing with other countries in bad faith. If it's a bad treaty (like TPP might very will be), then vote it down, or better still, don't bother negotiating in the first place.
#14 By: Jesse_Hamilton, February 19th, 2014 02:15
That was my exact thought. If the message could have been presented without all the "subtle" tea party jokes it would have been a lot easier to share.
#15 By: Cowicide, February 19th, 2014 06:50
I will say that fast-tracking is pretty much the only way to negotiate a treaty
That's an incredibly black and white opinion. That's basically supporting top-down corporate communism instead of a democratic process.
A democratic process may be messy, lengthy and do horrible things like offer some semblance of transparency, some safety/environmental concerns and possible fairness towards workers and consumers ... but it's not an impossible process.
The corporatists want you to believe the lie that a democratic process can't work and spend a lot of effort manufacturing consent among the populace to reinforce that lie. Looks like they got to you.
Hustling through a treaty that benefits the rich while fucking over everyone else for the sake of hustling through a treaty isn't the way things "have to be". That's just a corporatist talking point to keep the megalomania sickness alive and well.
#16 By: am80256, February 19th, 2014 07:09
I will just point out one major factual error on page 10 et subs. - Iceland is actually the biggest producer of bananas in Europe and exports relatively huge amounts of them. And incidentally, they do it just as depicted: They grow the bananas in greenhouses under artificial light. Thanks to abundant volcanic and hydro power, electricity and heat are extremely cheap (and renewable) in Iceland and that makes this system quite viable.
#17 By: Cowicide, February 19th, 2014 08:22
I'm not sure banana production in Iceland was meant to be taken literally in the comic, but that's interesting info you posted.
#18 By: am80256, February 19th, 2014 08:36
Obviously, the point about the Ricardian principle is valid irrespective of the particulars, but it points to imperfect research on the part of the author.
#19 By: Cowicide, February 19th, 2014 08:56
it points to imperfect research on the part of the author.
If the subject of the comic was Icelandic banana production, then I'd agree with you.
#20 By: Mister44, February 19th, 2014 10:19
I found this rather informative and well laid out. If I were him I would get rid of or revise the Tea Party panels. Those are actually the kind of people you want to influence and bring to your side. And I see their ideologies similar enough that it wouldn't be a hard thing to do. Note in the comic they are protesting gov. spending and taxes. I don't believe the are for large corporations gaming the system to their advantage.
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