beschizza — 2014-03-12T22:37:23-04:00 — #1
newliminted — 2014-03-12T22:45:14-04:00 — #2
Of course free ain't actually free.
djhbaw1 — 2014-03-13T06:56:21-04:00 — #3
Wow. You guys are just cheap, lazy ingrates. They give you their work for no charge, they create the software for helping you, they listen to your blather about how the Internet should be free and you still complain.
You want the photos because you're too cheap to pay a photographer. You want all of the cash for yourselves even though the photographs make up 70% of what we see on your site. Why is that fair? Why shouldn't the photographers get something for their work? IF you think that the writers deserve everything, why don't you just create a text blog and see how many people show up?
fuzzyfungus — 2014-03-13T07:27:54-04:00 — #4
And when you gaze long into a .gif the .gif also gazes into you.
Terms And Conditions #146
beschizza — 2014-03-13T11:18:49-04:00 — #5
Trolling doesn't help whatever point you're trying to make.
At BB, we pay to use JPGs from Reuters' photo wire, but it's unlikely we'll use Getty's free embeds much at all.
wearysky — 2014-03-13T12:21:48-04:00 — #6
That was pretty funny. Good job.
You were trying to be funny, weren't you?
djhbaw1 — 2014-03-13T17:34:25-04:00 — #7
I just looked at the current page and found a total of one image from Reuters. All of the others came from who knows where. Most are uncredited and almost certainly unpaid.
Why won't you use Getty Images? You're more than happy to embed YouTube videos and give them the ad revenue. Why not Getty?
And you can call me a troll but that's just a cheap, lazy rhetorical gimmick to save you from the trouble of really thinking about what I'm saying. A troll is not someone who disagrees with you. A troll is not someone who speaks honestly and forthrightly. A troll is not someone who doesn't buy into your anti-artist game.
beschizza — 2014-03-14T01:34:17-04:00 — #8
This is just sad. You made up nonsense about how we don't pay for stuff, your assumptions turned out to be wrong, and that's why you're behaving like this.
We have used Getty images. And are happy to have paid for them. Getty's embeds, as explained in the linked EFF article, have a few problems that YouTube doesn't, but I imagine we'll use them now and again.
See? It's not the disagreement. It's the inane hostility. I say "we won't use them much" and you hear "won't use them". That is why you are said to be trolling.
I mean, you're basically being told to grow up here by me. That, if nothing else, should be very embarrassing for you.
djhbaw1 — 2014-03-14T07:20:24-04:00 — #9
Hostile? I learned it from your site. Your site is filled with anti-artist hostility. Cory is practically a machine-gun of copyright hate. If any artist stands up for his or her rights, your site will pillory and mock them for not understanding the internet. Look at my case. I point out legit points and I get called a "troll." If you knew I was a woman, you would be calling me "bossy" or worse. Now you've moved on calling me "immature." I'll tell you who's immature, the Internet dreamers who think that they can just take and take and take from the artists while rationalizing it as a "remix".
Show the artists some respect and they'll show you some.
wearysky — 2014-03-14T09:22:03-04:00 — #10
To be fair, you don't actually seem to understand the internet. This quote from your original post kinda sums it up:
They didn't create any software. They added an extra layer of abstraction on top of the plain old internet (which is all that you need to embed photos), which you are required to use so that they can collect user data from your readers. That's what the complaint is here. They say they're letting sites use their photos for free, but they're not. They're collecting (extremely valuable) user information in exchange for letting sites use their photos.
beschizza — 2014-03-14T09:29:53-04:00 — #11
"A cheap, lazy rhetorical gimmick to save you from the trouble of really thinking"
acerplatanoides — 2014-03-14T09:30:41-04:00 — #12
Encore, encore, Free Bird!!!! [holds lit zippo overhead, throws roses and panties at the stage]
beschizza — 2014-03-17T22:39:10-04:00 — #13
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