xeni at May 17th, 2014 13:23 — #1
prestonsturges at May 17th, 2014 13:49 — #2
The current "scandals" provide a distraction from all sorts of real issues, but I think one emphasis on Obama scandals is because there is a 4,000 p[age Senate report on Bush era kidnapping and torture. It's not clear when it will come out, because very federal agencies will want redactions, but when (if) it does come out, it will be huge.
Until then, notice how hard everyone is working to ignore it.
rocketpj at May 17th, 2014 14:01 — #3
Well, now that a judge has ordered it, we can be sure that instead of being destroyed they will be somehow magically lost in a storage/administrative mishap for which nobody can be held responsible (or at least nobody over the rank of private).
zachstronaut at May 17th, 2014 14:12 — #4
Pretty sure the torture tapes were willfully destroyed after a judge ordered them not to be, and there has been no consequences.
robotmonkeys at May 17th, 2014 17:30 — #5
bytebro at May 17th, 2014 17:47 — #6
What you can pray for is another whistle-blower who will show all the un-redacted stuff in all its horror. Snowden was/is wonderful, but I am sure there is more to come out...
stuart_anderson at May 18th, 2014 01:27 — #7
That info is locked up where nobody can get at it. Can you imagine how disastrous it would be for the American government to have that out in the open - it would be graphic, undeniable, and pretty much impossible to spin.
melted_crayons at May 18th, 2014 05:11 — #8
And that's why we will never see it.
willondon at May 20th, 2014 22:56 — #9
I thought it was already out in the open. To any reasonable and aware person, it's already graphic and undeniable. Sadly, we haven't yet achieved impossible to spin.
stuart_anderson at May 21st, 2014 06:11 — #10
I can imagine (based on the absolute tenacity of the Administration to keep it under wraps) that whatever the photos show is worse, not just in a torture way but in a way that would seriously undermine the government's credibility and probably the military's standing.
xeni at May 22nd, 2014 13:23 — #11
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