maggiekb at May 1st, 2014 14:34 — #1
jandrese at May 1st, 2014 16:35 — #2
Wait, are you trying to tell me that an untested health food fad might not be grounded in science? How am I supposed to cleanse my toxins or realign my chi now?
dloburns at May 1st, 2014 16:42 — #3
So what I want to know is if can I get some bacteria that will make my farts not smell like warmed over death.
jackbird at May 1st, 2014 17:09 — #4
With that profile pic I doubt it.
omnitheo at May 1st, 2014 19:44 — #5
Funny thing is, almost none of these probiotic bacteria even make it to your gut. Most are killed in your stomach. The only way to properly reintroduce bacteria to your gut is through the other route, and even that is usually only temporary.
redesigned at May 1st, 2014 20:45 — #6
depends on what is making you fart...there are a number of things that can be broken down by specific enzymes or bacteria, and others that can't. Take the product Beano for example. Often bad farts are an indicator of a food intolerance though, or you could just be naturally gifted.
I recommend doing the stroll and bomb in the local grocery or library or mall, everyone love a good mystery fart from someone who is no longer there.
redesigned at May 1st, 2014 21:03 — #7
actually many formulations are designed specifically to increase how many viable bacteria make it to your gut intact, but even formulations that aren't buffered or micro-encapsulated or pre-stressed have over a 50% transit survival rate. this is why we can get things like food poisoning or e-coli. The stomach isn't an efficient sterilizer, that is a pretty old misconception.
Lactobacillus acidophilus the most common probiotic and the one in yogurt has an average survival of 75.4% +/- 18.3%
if i read the linked article correctly, specific bacteria and formulations are indeed helpful and proven for specific conditions, and general formulations are also generally beneficial, but that many of the miracle curative health claims by the industry are overblown and she uses the term "ahead" of the research, meaning unsubstantiated.
That sounds about right to me. Beneficial yes, a cure all or miracle cure, no. Reasonable stuff.
Her analysis was pretty level headed and right in the middle of the road, she didn't claim they didn't work or didn't have benefits, she didn't claim they had miracle cure properties, she was practical and spot on in claiming that they do only what they have been proven to do, not less, not more.
jandrese at May 2nd, 2014 11:21 — #8
From what I've seen, if your gut bacteria is out of whack then they can help, but otherwise it doesn't do much of anything at all.
So this is most useful for the colonic cleansing crowd, who have a tendency to screw up their guts ecosystem, but for normal people it doesn't do anything.
spookygirl_sd at May 2nd, 2014 14:11 — #9
Keeping your gut bacteria in balance is a good thing, but I think people are going totally over the top with the whole idea. If you want to get probiotics from yogurt, eat some yogurt. We don't need a special yogurt with special labels and special marketing (not to mention ridiculous prices) to do it. Don't like yogurt? Hit your local health food store, grab some chewable acidophilus (most of it tastes like strawberry) and take it once a day. Done.
redesigned at May 2nd, 2014 14:13 — #10
- We all have more gut bacteria then all the rest of the cells in our body, by no small margin.
- That the modern diet is more sterile and more refined.
- The number of ailments that specifically arise from digestive issues.
- How the gut bacterial balance affects body ph.
That it is a gross misunderstanding to think that colonic cleansers are the only ones with flora imbalances or that would benefit from probiotic supplements. The research shows it to be beneficial, no one is arguing that. It just isn't the miracle cure all that the industry is hyping. Generally beneficial...yes, can help certain ailments...yes, miracle cure all...no.
The science is pretty darn solid about what it does and doesn't do, anyone can look up the science and see what they can and cannot expect. The point is to avoid extremism on either side of the coin, in claims for, or claims against, and stick with the science.
maggiekb at May 6th, 2014 14:34 — #11
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