doctorow at January 22nd, 2014 07:01 — #1
l_mariachi at January 22nd, 2014 07:56 — #2
Didn’t we have a Cold War to put an end to this type of thing? Whatever happened with that?
And why doesn’t this get one-tenth the amount of coverage that “Bridgegate” does? A traffic jam from four months ago is more important than a veto coup in a major Eastern European state?
anton_p_gully at January 22nd, 2014 08:31 — #3
Vice is growing on me. The online magazine, Vice. Good article up there today about Cuba.
Hopefully the EU will take steps before Ukraine, and the -stans, get their own version of the Arab Spring.
halloween_jack_ at January 22nd, 2014 08:46 — #4
For review: "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."
euansmith at January 22nd, 2014 08:51 — #5
Poor Ukraine. It is amazing how quickly shit like this can be rolled out by the ruling psychopaths.
imb at January 22nd, 2014 08:53 — #6
This is terrifying and should be covered. But you needn't not cover local government corruption at the same time. Why should it be an either/or proposition?
karls at January 22nd, 2014 09:11 — #7
The problem is that each side is pretty clearly aligned with an outside power and the EU is reluctant to engage in a proxy civil war with Russia.
cstross at January 22nd, 2014 09:13 — #8
Especially as the EU gets a lot of its natural gas by pipeline from Russia and it's winter ...
euansmith at January 22nd, 2014 09:23 — #9
Maybe we need to wait for European Spring.
karls at January 22nd, 2014 09:29 — #10
True, although Russia is aware that that cuts both ways. Even the Soviet Union didn't go there.
rezorrand at January 22nd, 2014 09:55 — #11
murrayhenson at January 22nd, 2014 10:00 — #12
American ex-pat living in Krakow (8 years) here: I honestly believe that the Russians were simply more able to hand out cash and power than the EU were. Yanukovych is Soviet old-school and a politician; I doubt he did more than determine who was willing to offer more (carrot) and/or put the hurt on (stick) and then made his decision. Besides, he knows that closer integration with the EU - gods forbid actual membership - means that he wields less arbitrary power because they require governments with a bit more accountability and consequence.
brusyur at January 22nd, 2014 10:21 — #13
heres some more: http://euro-online.kiev.ua/ that German users may be able to check without the U Tube GEMA censorship bit activated.
simone_baptiste at January 22nd, 2014 11:56 — #14
it's almost as bad as the "free speech zones" that are setup for people to practice their "free speech" in US
d107266 at January 22nd, 2014 12:24 — #15
For those interested, here's a petition calling on the Norwegian government to impose personal sanctions on, the President, the Minister of Interior, the 235 Members of the Ukrainian Parliament who voted for the anti-constitutional laws, as well as other people involved in the current violence against Ukrainian citizens.
bobo at January 22nd, 2014 13:02 — #16
Um, not exactly an "apples and oranges" comparison there eh?
While I agree that the concept of a "free speech zone" is absolutely ludicrous, comparing it to these legal changes in the Ukraine is like comparing a splinter to a 2x4 through the head. (since hyperbole seems to be the reigning motif here)
l_mariachi at January 22nd, 2014 13:59 — #17
Who said anything about not covering both? I just think the proportions are way out of whack.
imb at January 22nd, 2014 14:02 — #18
The proportions are always out of whack as far as international news, so point taken. But as a potential presidential candidate, the bridge story does have merit, in spite of the obvious jokes.
dingo at January 22nd, 2014 14:55 — #19
Wow… i know people who were banged up in HMP Durham (thats in the UK for foreign readers……... and a prison) under the criminal justice act for holding raves in woods/warehouses….. It seems to me that the Ukraine has just copied the UK Gov hand book on dictatorship! Where has our freedom gone?
johnfrodo at January 22nd, 2014 15:22 — #20
First the Ukraine and then .......http://thinkingaboot.blogspot.ca/2014/01/utopians-are-heavily-read.html
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