#1 By: Xeni Jardin, July 11th, 2013 10:16
Nelson Bocaranda.A Washington Post editorial out today details one of the more bizarre attacks by Venezuela against reporters and truth-exposers within its own borders: trumped-up charges against one of its best-known journalists, Nelson Bocaranda. He's a newspaper columnist and radio presenter, followed by about 1.5 million on Twitter. In mid-2011, he broke the news that… READ THE REST
#2 By: Rick Potthoff, July 11th, 2013 10:50
Even so, I think that Snowden has no choice but to accept asylum in Venezuela. They are 'anti-Yanqui' enough to keep him out of US hands.
#3 By: Boundegar, July 11th, 2013 11:02
Conversely, I'm sure the Obama administration would be happy to offer asylum to Bocaranda. Funny how that works.
#4 By: Lucas Sallovitz, July 11th, 2013 11:16
You keep posting these descriptions of Venezuela as a dictatorship and an ill place for Snowden to go to, from the country that actually has been recently proved to have a massive citizen spy program, the US double standard never ceases to amaze me.
#5 By: Lucas Sallovitz, July 11th, 2013 11:21
The funny thing is that you fail to realize why Bocaranda isn't in need of asylum.
#6 By: anon, July 11th, 2013 11:27
The Washington Post on Venezuela? I'm pretty sure this is yet another propaganda piece, but the problem is I just don't have time to fact check everything the US media publishes on their official enemies. The sad bit is like Iraq, there is nothing you can do to stop a well funded PR campaign, and after it's over, when all is dead and done, when we find out there was nothing behind it but profiteering, it's too late. We then share our well intentioned regret and move on."We just didn't know," we say. From previous research, odds are about 50/50 any US news on Venezuela is bullshit. And on Snowden there is a 95% probability it's bullshit. And it's El Universal! Frankly, I"m losing faith in the controversial shit being published on BoingBoing. Who vets this stuff? (Who owns you?) What's going on? If you can't say, wink or something. Give us a sign. For the record, I'd prefer you skip publishing anything on Latin America or hire Greg Grandin or Noam Chomsky or someone who can show some unbiased credentials. (Why isn't my country reporting on the evils of Latin America?)
#7 By: Rob Beschizza, July 11th, 2013 11:47
"Who vets this stuff? (Who owns you?) What's going on?"
#8 By: rocketpj, July 11th, 2013 11:48
From outside the US, it is easy to see how utterly warped the US media portrayal of most Latin American countries has become - particularly Venezuela.
I have no idea if this article is true, partially true, or spun up based on a tiny kernel of truth. The Washington Post is the definition of an unreliable narrator when it comes to South America.
As for Snowden, he has to go somewhere. There weren't any perfect countries offering him asylum, and none of the countries with (purportedly) better press freedom were willing to offer it to him. Where would you have him go?
#9 By: Ygret, July 11th, 2013 11:50
While this story sounds plausible, I have to agree with bradbelltv. If BoingBoing wants to blog US mainstream media stories about Venezuela, Bolivia, Argentina or Nicaragua you should always preface the story with a caveat -- something like:
"This report, from a mainstream US media source, should be taken with a huge grain of salt because the US MSM has a strong history of extremely biased reporting when it comes to these nations, all of which have chosen to opt out of the western neoliberal financial cartel, and hence are under constant attack, through propagandistic reporting, as well as financial assault and potential military assault usually in the form of CIA-supported coup attempts. There was a Venezuelan coup attempt in 2002 to oust Hugo Chavez that failed, and another in Honduras in 2009 that succeeded, both with significant assistance from the US government."
I would add that the story the other day from the woman, can't remember her name, that had her phone conversations tapped and played on television, would have been more insightful if we would've been informed of what activities her family has been involved in with regard to the coup attempts in Venezuela, or other attempts to disrupt the current government.
If you need further information that doesn't get reported by the MSM, in addition to the two names bradbelltv suggested, I would suggest reporting anything on Venezuela by Greg Palast.
It is odd that we read all sorts of MSM reports on these nations, especially Venezeuala, on BoingBoing and nothing from alternate sources like Greg Palast, who has a much better record of propaganda-free investigative reporting (not to mention much more interesting pieces). Feel free to defend or discuss this editorial decision-making with us at your leisure. Cheers!
#10 By: Kris , July 11th, 2013 11:56
Admittedly, I know next to nothing about the politics of Latin-American countries and US involvement outside of MSM reports and a basic understanding of Iran-Contra - Do you have any recommendations for more information?
#11 By: Ygret, July 11th, 2013 11:59
One other point of note. There has been much fuss made in the US MSM about Venezuela's recent election. It is routinely reported, and the US government has asserted strongly that the elections were rigged. From reporting by Greg Palast is appears that there were attempts to rig the election, just not from the government. Maduro didn't need to steal the election -- as Chavez's hand-picked successor, he had a very solid lead. In fact, it was the anti-Chavistas that attempted to steal the election using Choicepoint, the same company that stole Florida for Bush in 2000 by removing 56,000 minorities from the Florida voting rolls. They also stole the last Mexican election, and have actually apologized for doing so. They didn't get away with it because Chavez's response was to create a bullet-proof voting system. The whole story is fascinating: http://www.gregpalast.com/did-chavez-pick-steal-the-election-in-venezuela/.
#12 By: millie fink, July 11th, 2013 12:06
I suggest the book that Chavez gave a copy of to Obama --
Sales surge for book about the history of Latin America's exploitation after exchange at summit of Americas
#13 By: Kris , July 11th, 2013 12:09
Well, that's a recommendation that's hard to beat in terms of relevancy. Thanks.
#14 By: millie fink, July 11th, 2013 12:14
Just remembered that I also found John Perkins' "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" very eye-opening --
#15 By: Guido Núñez Mujica, July 11th, 2013 12:15
I seriously doubt it.
They never stopped selling oil to the US.
They gave away (not sold, but gave away for free) Venezuelan property in the US to the US govt (mind you, not to the US Socialist/Green Party), just because Chávez wanted.
They just took a $USD 2bn loan of Chevron Texaco.
It's all posturing. The moment that Snowden is not useful anymore for propaganda, or becomes too annoying, he will be deported. Look what Venezuelan rulers have done, and what they are doing. Don't just listen to their words.
Last Sunday, the President of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela, announced during the Summit of the Americas that the Venezuelan Government will donate to United States, through CITGO Petroleum company, the Petty's Island located in New Jersey state.
CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuela's government and state oil company PDVSA are in urgent talks over a long-expected $6 billion in loans from China and U.S. energy giant Chevron that would help relieve the nation's strained finances, sources close to the discussions said. Oil Minister Rafael Ramirez said this week that PDVSA had no plans to issue any more dollar-denominated bonds, confounding widespread speculation that one was planned to address a chronic shortage of dollars for local businesses.
#16 By: Guido Núñez Mujica, July 11th, 2013 12:25
You are free to fact check Bocaranda's claims, and the eerie silence of the authorities, so interested in transparency and human rights, about Chávez' health, until the day he died.
Venezuela is not like Iraq, and if you are really willing to look for info there excellent sources online. Including the Venezuelan anarchists, giving very detailed accounts of why the Venezuelan govt is no friend of the people, despite their claims.
The US govt is terrible, and the violations of the privacy of its citizens are atrocious, however, that does not exempt the govt of Venezuela, the country where I was born, of responsibility concerning its lack of transparency, its corruption and general mediocrity. Don't give the govt of Venezuela a free pass just because you don't like the govt of your own country. We Venezuelans deserve better.
Bocaranda is not running from the govt? I admire his attitude, but that does not means the govt is benign. After all, I don't see Michael Moore running away from Obama, I did not see him running away from Bush.
#17 By: Ygret, July 11th, 2013 12:35
I don't think any of us are saying that Venezuela doesn't have its problems, hypocrisies, or even that this story is necessarily false. The point is it is extremely hard to get unbiased reporting on anything going on in those nations that have bucked the western financial cartel's vampire-grip, including Venezuela, Nicaragua, Argentina and Bolivia (and until 2009, Honduras as well). And the best thing one can do is check various sources that aren't mainstream US media to see if a story is actually true. The US MSM has a ridiculous and awful history of not just distorted, but outright false reporting on nations that aren't firmly within our economic control.
#18 By: Ygret, July 11th, 2013 12:36
Also, check out anything by Greg Palast, and Robert Parry's ConsortiumNews is excellent also.
#19 By: Purplecat, July 11th, 2013 12:47
It's getting so that I can't tell the difference between Snowden-related attacks on Venezuela by the US media, and perfectly normal, business as usual attacks on Venezuela by the US media.
#20 By: Ereiamjh, July 11th, 2013 12:50
A reader made a polite and unemotional post that addressed it and it was promptly scrubbed. Presumably because it could be considered "circumstantial ad hominem" or something along those lines. Considering it's relevance to the narrative being put forward, and how ideological motives should be weighed when considering allegations I didn't think it was much of an ad hominem as it was useful information to know. It's good to know about your sources. Oh well...
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