doctorow — 2013-10-22T14:36:49-04:00 — #1
davide405 — 2013-10-22T14:53:49-04:00 — #2
I don't know whether to cheer for this company's ethical choice, or to weep for my country's descent to a totalitarian state.
boundegar — 2013-10-22T14:59:03-04:00 — #3
Came to say this. The next step is for those technologies that are truly secure to be outlawed. I vaguely recall an attempt, long ago, to outlaw large-prime keys.
earnestinebrown — 2013-10-22T16:02:17-04:00 — #5
It's time to kill NSLs along with the secrecy and conscription that goes with it.
The economic losses because of this spying on Americans and the world will be astronomical. I can image a world where tech doesn't happen in America.
jeffbell924 — 2013-10-22T17:21:09-04:00 — #6
You could say that they were spooked.
kimmo — 2013-10-22T17:22:00-04:00 — #7
I can imagine a world that's followed America down the gurgler.
maximilian_paul — 2013-10-22T17:25:29-04:00 — #8
As we know, capitalism wins. No US email/messaging system can be trusted. Which means the next one which breaks through will make a big feature of freedom, and therefore emphasising why the American government can't touch it. The US government is profoundly anti-capitalist and totally pro-feudalism. Only those born to wealth count.
drew_g — 2013-10-22T17:28:22-04:00 — #9
On the contrary, they're very very pro-capitalist. De-facto feudalism's just the natural consequence of capitalism allowed to run rampant (see: the last time america really tried that, late 1800s-early-1900s).
kimmo — 2013-10-22T17:29:23-04:00 — #10
Welcome to laissez-faire lockdown.
rocketpj — 2013-10-22T21:06:34-04:00 — #11
Don't be so sure. We are an innovative species. Innovation will happen in the US or it will happen elsewhere, but it will continue. A few bumps maybe, but the NSA is doing everything in its power to ensure the US dominance in innovation and technology is going to vanish quickly.
daneel — 2013-10-22T21:22:17-04:00 — #12
When secure systems are outlawed, only outlaws will be secure.
kimmo — 2013-10-23T02:54:43-04:00 — #13
As far as I can see, pretty much every developed nation is emulating the craptacularly short-sighted fat cat cronyism the US has so blatantly embraced; just look at the IP scenario worldwide...
Citizenship is a dying notion everywhere.
bigrdog — 2013-10-23T07:43:54-04:00 — #15
Simply close the business in the US and open up a new business in another country where they don't have this laws.
That must be the easiest solution to the problem.
marc45 — 2013-10-23T17:16:22-04:00 — #16
I wonder if this is Cryptoseal's way of saying they've been directed to compromise their encryption system without actually violating the "do not speak of this" order.
wrecksdart — 2013-10-23T20:38:59-04:00 — #17
Isn't it ridiculous that such a thing even exists? How the hell can this be constitutional? I certainly do not think Adams, Jefferson, and their pals would A-OK with this, and I know for a fact that I'm not. And I am SO SO much better looking than both of those guys.
doctorow — 2013-10-27T14:36:49-04:00 — #18
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