46% of Scots want to separate from the UK; 43% want to remain

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@noobdood

“United Kingdom” refers to the whole package, as in, The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, to give it it’s full title.

I said technically.

Technically, the United Kingdom is the result of James VI of Scotland becoming James I of England and Ireland too in 1603, and the formal Acts of Union in 1707. England and Scotland, not any other parties.
Interesting point about N.Ireland being the rump of the Kingdom of Ireland, but that feels a bit tenuous to me.

[ETA: No, I’m wrong about the Kingdom of Ireland. Sorry. Ignore me.]

I could see England and Wales still calling themselves ‘the UK’ after Scotland and (maybe) N.Ireland leave, but there wouldn’t be a historical basis for it. Technically.

@anon73430903

Labour, Conservative and the middle ground are just variations on the past. We need to be looking to the future for solutions to our problems, not trying to go back to ‘the good old days’

I’m not advocating a return to anything, just suggesting that there’ll tend to be a right wing, a left wing, and parties between. However existing and new groupings evolve, they’ll still fit on the same social and economic spectra.

Do you see it differently?