wow, thanks for the update. I have a trashcan at work, just upgraded its ram with a kit from OWC to max it out. last macbook I bought for myself was the 17" just after they discontinued it, which I also maxed out, and is still running very strong. another nail in the mac coffin as far as I’m concerned. my next purchase will be a new desktop workstation for home, unless apple wows me with their alleged mac pro release aka the cuperino sasquatch, I’m buying a pc. sighs