Article 13 will wreck the internet because Swedish MEPs accidentally pushed the wrong voting button

I think it means - as ever with EU rules - that each country gets to implement them individually. But if they all adhere to them - even with some small vagaries for how each country legislates to be compliant - then complying with EU rules in any place is likely to be pretty much compliant in any other place. There may be small differences but if Google complies in, say, Germany, then it has a hugely high probability of being compliant in Estonia. And vice versa.

They did. It very clearly said “Do not fail to digitate this button if you have no desire to not disimplement Article 13 and not unestablish the contrariwise regimentation”. You can only hold the hands of users so far.


This has been one hell of a mercury retrograde.


Do they use Robert’s Rules of Order? If you voted for something that passed, you can file a Motion to Reconsider.

LOL Interwebs QOTD

OK also contender for Interwebs QOTD :smiley:

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so what i’m hearing is that the swedish MEPs bork bork borked it


The EU has 2 years to implement this, right? That’s plenty of time for them to realize it is ultimately unenforceable.

Or Google will shut off all services to the EU and they’ll realize it in two days.

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Now that a list of how Swedish MEPs voted has been released, it looks as though there were at least two, possibly even three MEPs who voted incorrectly by pressing the wrong button.

Was it their first day on the job? Otherwise it would take multiple people suffering from Rob Ford-level coke binges to all get it wrong at the same time.


Has this come around again?


I think that more recently, they’ve felt it was a good idea to avoid drawing the Germans’ attention to that last time.

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Actually, a Croatian MEP (Borzan) also admitted to have pressed the wrong button regarding the amendment debate.


It really sucks. I’ve always been a pro E.U. person. And I still am. But the bureacracy/lobbyism is really getting extremely bad. I still think it’s best to stay within the E.U. and try to change it for the better from within. But on days like this it gets depressing.

Sometimes I dream of retiring to some remote uninhabited island and only worry about food and sleep.


And many millions of euros of fines are being levied by data protection authorities to penalize web sites and apps that misuse personal data or lie to their users regarding what data they gather, keep, or sell to aggregators.


I like to look at it this way*: without the EU, we’d still get stupid laws passed now and then, except it’d be set against the backdrop of a shooting war in Western Europe by 2050.

*me liking to look at it this way is no guarantee of the accuracy of “this way”


Yup. Look at the so-called “banking crisis” of 2008 and beyond - a systemic crisis of this size in any pre-EU point in time would have resulted in at least one minor war. Say, something like the Second Schleswig war (1864) or the Austro-Prussian war (1866).
Distraction from internal problems, a handy scapegoat, and the promise of loot, what’s not to like…


Yes, and the lobbyists would probably be the same people, but working for the international arms dealers. And they would probably still not lobby for freedom…


I’m all about privacy but it’s the implementation of GDPR that bothers me. The web user experience on has been damaged because we’re required to click multiple times before we can do anything.

its even worse:

Now please keep your nerves! The corrected votes are there. Had all colleagues and coworkers RIGHTLY voted today, there would have been a majority to make changes to # Article 13 & # 11.

and it seems that the way they asked was deliberately confusing:

He was aware at the time that this was a bit confusing and continued anyway. Ist even heard on the recording for the vote.


that really does it!

EDIT: TheGuardian has also a piece on this topic:


We need extra mechanisms in the E.U. to fire people for these kind of shenanigans.