AT&T becomes latest YouTube advertiser to pull ads over pedophile problem

[Magdalene]

@fuzzyfungus

Even among people who agree that relentless ogling and harassment is unacceptable (and it’s a smaller percentage than one would like) generally aren’t too concerned about the mere fact that someone, somewhere may be being titillated by media involving women.

True, but I want to make a distinction here- it’s not just people being titillated. That’s not what I am talking about. I am referring to the harassment, prurience and general creepiness that occurs in otherwise ordinary videos comnent sections.

@fuzzyfungus

The tl;dr, I think, is that acceptance of the moral conviction that pedophiles(in the sense of people with that sexual interest, not just the child rapists) are bad is substantially more decisive than the moral conviction that harassment and harm to people is bad; and we are seeing responses that reflect this. The metric isn’t harm, actual or expected; but moral status.

This is sort what I was getting at. I am trying to get people to consider where their responses are coming from and why they make those distinctions, albeit somewhat unsuccessfully.

@fuzzyfungus

(In particular; while both pedophiles and harassers have strong proponents, often perpetrators, and strong opponents; harassers have vastly more nominally-moderates who will to cover for them.

True.

@fuzzyfungus

Announce a pedo hunt and pretty much the only pushback you’ll get from anyone who isn’t NAMBLA is a dry request from the civil libertarians to remember the first amendment and during process and some concerns about criminalizing teen couples.
Crack down on sexual harassment, though, and it’s an instant firestorm about the feminazi PC commisars and their grim liberal agenda.)

Nailed it. And that sucks.

@AndreStmaur

In practice, the western world has a consensus that sexual interest towards underage humans = pedophilia = very bad thing, while there is no such vast consensus towards other abusive behavior.

Yep, totally true, and as I wrote above, I think that’s the interesting part of this discussion.

@AndreStmaur

Real pedophiles are of course nothing like a trolley writing time codes in youtube comments. I know, because one of my uncles is a convicted pedophile.

Would you be willing to elaborate on this? Isn’t it possible that more than one sort exists?

Edited to combine comments, BBS orders