What point is that? I think the point of that site is the ridiculous amount of murders in one city.
The point I was making referencing that site was that there were clear areas where it was really bad in Chicago. There were other areas that had only a few murders and some with none at all. That the violence is localized. That site isn’t trying to make the point that it is a poverty issue. I honestly haven’t even read any of the commentary sections, I merely reference the data provided - which is one page you can scroll through vs 50+ page PDFs that no one will end up reading.
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He breaks down crimes by neighborhood names, perpetrators (despite nearly 90% being unknown) and victims by race, and victims only by gender (not perpetrators…gee, I wonder why that statistic isn’t being shown? /s). He doesn’t give any stats about economic class. It’s made very clear that the problem is black neighborhoods, not poverty.[/quote]
Finding crime stats with any detail is a PITA, and when you find it once it can be hard to reference to show someone else later. That site doesn’t have all the data, obviously, but a lot of info is gleaned. Some of it interesting and important, some of it not so much, like the number of people shot in the ass. If he is gathering data from new reports, he won’t have access to the
such things as economic status of the victim or suspect. You aren’t even going to always have the race of the suspect because you don’t have a suspect. You will know the race of the victim.
[quote=“anon67050589, post:18, topic:76801”]
This guy has such a nasty agenda that you are sullying yourself by continuing to use him as your sole reference point.[/quote]
I don’t know what this person’s agenda is. The front page is just statistics with no commentary. It is hard to claim there is an agenda in that. I haven’t read the commentary section, but either way, it appears this complied list is pretty accurate. It also complies all homicides (including police shootings), vs just murders which the CPD compiles.
And this isn’t my single reference point - but hey - let’s look at the OFFICIAL Chicago PD data.
Looks like we have a 2014 overview here. https://portal.chicagopolice.org/portal/page/portal/ClearPath/News/Crime%20Statistics/Crime%20Statistics%20Year%20End/1_pdfsam_compstat%20public%20report%202014%20yearend%2031-dec.pdf
Now you can go to another page and it breaks down these stats per district here: https://portal.chicagopolice.org/portal/page/portal/ClearPath/News/Crime%20Statistics
Oh hey, I should thank you for prompting me to look again, I found their annual reports which are WAAAY more detailed than standard stat sheets. Although 2010 is their newest online for some reason. https://portal.chicagopolice.org/portal/page/portal/ClearPath/News/Statistical%20Reports/Annual%20Reports/10AR.pdf
But like you said - why pick on Chicago? You’re right, and I already said, that the PER CAPITA rate is much less than many other large US cities. But the shear number - over 500 people a year - is just staggering compared to little St. Louis who has a much worse rate, but only 188 murder in 2015.
But hey lets look at St. Louis.
http://www.slmpd.org/images/2015_Homicide_Stats_for_Website.pdf
And here is their 2013 annual report: http://www.slmpd.org/images/2013AnnualReport_D.pdf
Again it shows how it is certain districts that are the hot spots for the worst crime.
One of the BEST crime reports I have stumbled upon, with more detail than most places is Milwaukee.
http://city.milwaukee.gov/hrc/publications
Here is a 50 page annual report with a lot more stats and analysis. The take away I got from reading this was, in Milwaukee at least, if you are going to be murdered, you are probably black, poor, you know your murderer, and both of you have been arrested in the past.
http://city.milwaukee.gov/ImageLibrary/Groups/cityHRC/reports/2014AnnualReportV.2.5.pdf
In another thread I lamented screwing off instead of doing something half way productive. Looking and finding better reports is one of those things, so if you find any you think are interesting please share.
