Wikipedia chose to do Creative Commons. All of its authors are fully aware that their content will be used by others. I have 0 guilt in this regard.
I will take your word for it, I guess. Do you have any personal experience with this? The only profit motive for advertisers that we encountered is getting more page views.
That should be taken as a joke. We are not ashamed that we are trying to make money. Google is already approaching a monopoly in the search sphere and controlling search suggestions, etc. If we get a bad reputation, we will lose users and $$$, so it is in our interest to stay honest.
Does that include your posts here on the BBS? Or heck, every time BB links to an article, post, or video by others?
Of course they do, because MONEY does - that’s why the Wikimedia foundation has a policy of not accepting large-dollar donations from anyone - to avoid any undue influence (which reminds me, go donate!). But thankfully, Wikipedia’s existence means that even if goes ahead and threatens to pull ads, resuliting in a site not writing unfavourable posts about them, there are other venues that will - That’s the point you seem to be missing, just like Wikia and Wikipedia can coexist today, multiple sources of information, funded via multiple means is vital for information freedom - The Wikimedia Foundation doesn’t want to be the sole arbiter of the contents of Wikipedia, that’s why Forking is encouraged.
I wrote this because I remembered reading about unsolicited redesign of Wikipedia visual style, done by would be UI designers. One of the routine rookie mistakes they pointed out was redesigning a logo with using one prominent Latin letter. This was a big no no in Wikipedia’s internal convention.
Just having good intentions is often not enough. You need to really understand the problem you are addressing and have a toolset to fix it.
Sort of, but keep in mind that duplicate pages don’t rank well on SEO. We noindex the wikipedia scrapes as well. Most of our traffic is from unique pages that link to Wikipedia pages as supplementary (e.g. the blue links).
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English is the dominant language on Earth. However, we will eventually be adding other language. Also, we imported some of the Wikidata, which will allow for auto-generated pages (at least the infobox portion) in many languages since these are language-invariant key:value pairs.
Go to another one of our unique pages, like this one
Some of the blue links are Wikipedia scrapes. They pop up as you hover over them, or on mobile, if you click. Traditional news pages don’t have anything like this, other than pure outbound links. For instance, in the infobox on the right, there is Cal Poly Pomona. If you didnt know where that was, you would have to google it. Here, you can just click or hover. Less interruption.
The ads on these pages are to make a profit, yes. Not going to hide that. However, as I stated above, they serve another purpose.
In pure numbers, yes. But in science and everything else, English is. If I were a Chinese person (that spoke English as a second language) in Iran, i would have a higher chance of finding an English speaker than another Mandarin one.
I tried talking to you about this on Twitter, to no avail. Why are you being a hater? The developers who built Everipedia were inspired by Stack Overflow to do this. Obviously it is a young project with very little funding, so it is imperfect and we have to run ads - but why not try to learn more about it rather than being mean? You were saying yourself (above) that Wikipedia ought to be disrupted… wtf dogg?
Not having ads is the entire point of Wikipedia – it’s non-commercial, explicitly a non-profit, and thus can be trusted to a degree that for-profit companies cannot.
Also, at Stack Overflow, people who copied our creative commons content and then slathered a bunch of ads all over it were a huge problem. There was no “remixing” or “reuse”, it was simply “duplicate with ads”.
If you’ve missed these points, then I think you’ve missed everything.
True. The same code used to scrape it initially is being adapted for real time updates. We are moving to Azure from AWS at the moment and hope to have it soon.
One point to be made is that many pages wont change significantly over the course of months, such as scientific elements, historical people and buildings, etc.
As I alluded to before, most of our traffic is to unique pages. The wikipedia scrapes are mainly used as supplementary material. We will probably never beat Wikipedia for pages like George Washington, Los Angeles, etc, and never plan to, but Wikipedia has a huge market share with little competition.
Also, are you using a Mac to type this? Apple is for profit – I wouldn’t trust it.
When i worked in a proteomics lab that was full of Asian graduate students, everyone spoke English. English is the language of science, international business, and high society man, cmon.
The second part of your statement is correct, but the first part is not. The entire point of Wikipedia is to collect the sum knowledge of the planet and have it freely available to everyone. The no ads policy is a decision by the Wikimedia Foundation in part to ensure that there’s no undue influence, but that’s certainly not the point of Wikipedia itself.
Wikimedia Expressly requests republishing and mirroring, and provides data dumps for this purpose. They do not want to be the sole gatekeepers of this information! They are instead trying to be the most free from influence. This is an incredibly important mission, but the larger mission, to collect the worlds knowledge and make it available, is the true mission of Wikipedia, and projects that both attempt to mirror Wikipedia and extend that content, especially ones that include pages deemed “not notable enough” by the Wikipedia editors, should be encouraged wherever possible to help diversify and strengthen that mission.
