Catalan independence movement declares a general strike in Barcelona

[Jorge]

@tekk

Would you be opposed to their independence if they took Aragon, Valencia, and the Balearics with them? They were certainly their own state, wouldn’t you agree?

I certainly wouldn’t use the same arguments.

@tekk

Focusing on whether or not something historically had a state is a horrible way of deciding things, though. Kurds never had their own state (okay, okay, Saladin, but still…) but do they not have the right to self-determination?

I completely ignore the subject. I’m sorry.

@DukeTrout

Please stop shifting the topic. You made an assertion about California doing a independence referendum. That assertion was shown to be false. Don’t shift the goalpost back to Catalonia and apply Spanish law to the California assertion.

The truth is that I don’t understand what you mean.
Nor is I supposed to say that it is not true.
I have tried with a couple of translators and I have not been able.
If you want me to answer you, I ask you to summarize it and so I can translate it.

@DukeTrout

We’re familiar here with that. It doesn’t play well. If it looks like a Nazi, acts like a Nazi, and smells like a Nazi, call it a Nazi.

92/5000
I’ve seen a lot of American police fights on television and I can’t miss calling them Nazis

@DukeTrout

Franco loved Catalans so much, he hugged them with bombs!

Franco bombed all of Spain.
There were fewer casualties in Catalonia than in other provinces in proportion.
The Spanish province that provided more fighters to the Francoist side was Catalonia.
The one that resisted less time.
The one that betrayed the republican troops to go on their own.
The one that suffered less control of the Franco state after the victory.
In which he found greater collaboration of the elites.
until football club Barcelona gave 10 medals to franco, No other team in Spain has done it.
He favored the appearance of heavy industry and textiles there.
This may not be told by independentists but this is something known by anyone who investigates the subject a bit.

@DukeTrout

Of course, it didn’t start with independence. The first step was an attempt to negotiate better treatment from the central government. The independence movement came from the harsh response to the first attempt.

The royal origins date back to the Carlist wars. There were two kings and different supporters in Spain.
The movement has been changing politically over the years until now.