Catalan Independence

I have a complicated view of it.

On the one hand, I think the EU means we no longer need to have the nation states. I have no particular attachment to the entity that is Spain and I dont care if it dissolved back into its constituent states.

However I am not in favor of rich parts of existing states declaring independence just so they dont have to share revenues with their poorer brethren. Im not sure if Catalan independence is about self-determination or reducing a tax burden. So I am pro Scottish independence (if thats what Scots want) and anti London independence, if that was what Londoners wanted.

I am also extremely anti the use of force on civilian populations. For that reason I think the Spanish government should be censured. Basically its wrong to beat up grannies for trying to vote. Its also wrong to confiscate 700k ballots and then claim there wasnt sufficient votes to provide a quorum. Similarly its wrong to be beat up and intimidate voters and try to argue the same. I cant support this kind of brazen bullcrap.

However, even though I think Catalonia is way more viable a state than Slovenia, independence will not happen. Catalonia does not control its own banking system. For the same reason the Greeks had to shut up and deal, the Catalans will lose as well. Madrid can just shut down their banks.