[quote=“middlewaytao, post:27, topic:101911”]
I really wish she would have sold some type of vision as to where she wanted to head towards. She spent half the campaign pissing on visions of others in the party, then in the general her whole campaign was pretty much "trump is mean and I am better. "
And she was in no position to call trump on a lot of his creative personal finances, because she was accesing a lot of the same tax breaks and loopholes. So it came down to a personality contest where the average eligible voter once again went…meh.
[/quote]I guess… maybe it’s just what I read and watched during the election but she explained her vision, the problem always seemed to be to say “the United States in not on the brink of destruction” and try to say we need realistic incremental improvement and that’s not an exciting message. And as far as negative goes, Trump was vile - I see almost everyone saying Clinton ran a campaign in the mud and that Trump preached hope, but Trump opened and closed every single speech and interview with insults to his opponents. His rally MCs chanted their meme sayings to fire the crowds up. The only hope he said was saying “I’ll give you the sun and the moon” in passing while then telling everyone that everything everywhere was shit. It’s a huge disconnect that I realize you don’t have an answer for (I can’t imagine anyone understands the social dynamics in play), but it’s an important topic nonetheless.
Clinton absolutely is not extremely charismatic, and she is very aggressive when it comes to national defense and US interests. But Trump’s audience simulataneously said Clinton was weak on terror an hated the military while saying she her aggressive moves on terror and military promotion would bring WW3. Meanwhile, Trump promised he would end ISIS with a magic boots-on-the-ground campaign in the Middle East, and suggested we should be using nukes many times on the campaign trail.
So just wandering how you (not specifically you) only believe the best of Trump and only believe the worst in Clinton at the same time is a big part of what happened in 2016, and a lot of the possibilities as to why are ugly truths many people have been dismissed in saying about the United States citing their personal experiences. That’s why I think about it.
Also, Clinton released her tax returns and did normal stuff but nothing strange. What loopholes are you talking about, or are you acuasing of shell corporations and Clinton Foundation conspiracies?
