Alright, True Believer.
A no-fly-zone over Syria, in this context, is a war with Russia. Simple as. Which is why it will never happen, and continuing to support this option is literally “being hawkish on Russia”. If enacted, it would mean shooting down Russian planes as well as bombing Russian anti-aircraft positions they have deployed and/or sold to Syrians.
But this will not satisfy you, I know. Nothing short of HRC burning the Russian flag will do.
“Now if this sounds familiar, it’s what Hitler did back in the '30s” is pretty explicit to me. Or was Hitler in the '30s not a Nazi? I mean, I didn’t drag Hitler in this conversation, she did.
Ah, so BoJo is now in on the “conspiracy to influence” too? Man, I just can’t keep track of all these conspiracies. It’s weird though: BoJo is pretty dead set against Putin, constantly calling for more stick; whereas his fellow conspirator Trump is a total Putin-lover, according to the Clinton campaign. Shit, even them right-wingers can’t keep their conspiracy straight. Good thing there are HRC True Believers out there, straightening things out for us: Putin is bad, literally a “not irrational” Hitler like HRC said, but HRC would never fight him, totally, except to impose a no-fly-zone she would have to.
Bullshit. Syria was a stable country, if not very democratic, until the US decided to actively support the internal opposition during the “Arab Spring”. And this policy was enacted while Clinton was Secretary of State under Barack Obama - it wasn’t done under GWB, it wasn’t done under Bill Clinton, it wasn’t done under GHB, it wasn’t done under Reagan… It’s really maddening how people go on and on about Libya because a few Americans died in a minor accident in a scenario that other entities actually escalated, but nobody gives a shit about how the Syrian civil war actually started by active US, Turkish and Saudi involvement, because no American was hurt there so it’s all good and everyone made the best decisions ever. Sarkozy fucked up Libya and HRC got shit for it, but HRC fucked up Syria and nobody will ever take any responsibility for it.
You know what “not being hawkish” would look like, today? Put your hands up and say “sorry, we fucked up - Syria should go back where it was before the war started. Assad can stay in power, with internationally-monitored elections or some other little thing to sell to the press. Anyone who fears repercussions, we’ll evacuate to the US - after all, we did jack shit for the millions of refugees we threw at Europe, it’s only right we take a few now. Al Nusra and friends can fuck right off to Ryad.” That is not being hawkish, in my book; anything where you deploy your own forces is.
