Creeps pretending to be feminists

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@hecep

Not to be argumentative, but what I’m on the fence about is this: When can one consider a looks-based insult socially ‘acceptable’? Never?

Is it okay to say that Hitler was ugly?

Is it okay to say that Trump is ugly?

Is it okay to say that Conway is ugly?

Comment and rationale are welcome.

PS: The basic ‘meat’ of my previous post is that perceived personality tends to fuel opinion on – for example – looks. It’s human nature. If Conway was ‘our’ kind of gal (i.e., liberal, honest, non-divisive, kind, etc.) we here wouldn’t be calling her (or thinking her to be) ugly; instead the right-wing would… and we here and elsewhere would be defending her, countering the right by describing her as ‘attractive’ or even ‘beautiful’. And let’s not forget that here and elsewhere Trump’s comb-over has been continually ridiculed with little or no counter argument; was that okay? Why so? Granted, looks should in every practical sense have no impact on how people should be judged (in spite of the fact that that is not the case in the real world), but if the subject of opinion was horrible in meaningful ways, well, you get the picture.

Well, there’s been a lot said on this but since you were responding to me, and at the risk of opening this whole thing up again, here’s my response.

No, I don’t think it’s acceptable to attack people for their looks. I don’t care whether it’s , or . If that’s the best you’ve got then you’re already losing, and if you have better then why aren’t you using it?

And yes, this applies to Trump too. When people call him dRumpf or Cheeto Mussolini or (my favourite) Trumpelthinskin it makes it easy for people to dismiss you as just not liking the guy (or possibly being 8 years old). Don’t insult his looks. I honestly don’t understand why he isn’t being referred to as 4 time bankrupt President Trump every single time.

I was also going to make this point, but Missy_Pants said it better and it bears repeating

@Missy_Pants

Men are not judged on their looks in the same way. Calling Trump ugly doesn’t have the same connotations as calling any woman ugly. Ugly women are stupid, slow, lazy, unsuccessful, often “old” too. “Ugly” men can make up for their “ugliness” with success, power, money, young beautiful wives, they compensate for the “ugliness” in a way women cannot.

Calling a successful woman ugly is to strip her of her achievements. It is an attempt to reduce to her less than nothing. A thing you wouldn’t even want to fuck. Not even with someone else’s dick. Because thats all women are, a vessel for male sexual attraction right? (#notallmen) Calling a successful man ugly… meh, usually gets shrugged off as jealousy.

Its part of the sexist power structure that we live in called society. The first step to tearing it down is to recognize that it exists.