I’ve been pointing out the short comings of its “condoms and pulling out” suggestions. And the limited options for men as goes quality birth control options. For two reasons.
First. Relying on men to bear the weight of birth control would increase the number of unwanted pregnancies. Rather than reduce them. Because birth control options for men are pretty damn limited. And have serious short comings in real world circumstances.
Second. On a personal responsibility stand front. As a dude who wants to take responsibility on this front. There’s only so far you can take it because options for men are so limited.
The thread also frames it as “eliminating abortion”. Not as men taking responsibilty for their part in this. And as many people have pointed out (myself included) people who are that sort of concerned about abortion. Arent OK with birth control either. I don’t think any of the pro choice people here would argue that eliminating abortions is the most important part of this conversation.
For women its the pill. To the point that there are many pills now. As well as methods for delivering the drugs contained there in that don’t involve any actual pills.
The guys you know. There was a point where i was detered from riding the subway because the $5 round trip was better used on food or rent.
I can shout “public health” and “across populations” a few more times if you like. But vasectomies have a rather high buy in, comparatively. However much that cost is spread out over many years of “use”. And big chunks of the population simply don’t have the funds for it. Even if its cheaper in the long run than a child. Because big chunks of the population arent in an “in the long run” ecconomic situation.
Of course they haven’t. I’m just trying to find a simple way to demonstrate where vasectomies sit in the hirearchy of birth control.
People say “just get the pill” and “just go pickup some condoms” all the time when this subject comes up.
Shit like vasectomies simply don’t sit in the same tier.
