Glenn Greenwald and Michael Hayden debate surveillance

Your snark adds nothing.

I was annoyed that he wouldn’t elaborate beyond his insecure lock analogy to provide any sort of concrete examples to make it clear what he was referring to, but as @brian_alto said, nobody acknowledged his point.

Which actually represents an end-run around the whole debate: whether or not mass surveillance can be justified in terms of rights versus security, that question is largely moot since so much of it depends on broken internet security at a fundamental level - which can’t even begin to be justified. A big slice of the NSA playbook is all about harming internet security for everyone.

There’s no ‘yes, but -’ for that shit. It’s not only unconscionable, it’s fucking retarded.

But also, it’s pretty damn tough to look good standing next to Greenwald, so there’s that.

<3 Greenwald

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