I noticed YouTube was slightly changed too.
fair doâs Must go at least 45. And quite right about 2 wheels.
This move by google is like saying It must be a Ford, Chevy, Huyndai, or Jeep from now on, and a new one at that.
Itâs sort of like putting up a toll booth where there wasnât one before. There -are- still other roads of course. And I canât realistically complain about something Iâm not paying for. But can I complain when I am the product being sold? Am i really only of value if i have the resources to keep up?
To be fair, I would very much like to say that.
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Well, me too, but for a different reasonâŚ
Honestly, if Google stopped supporting old version of IE they would be doing my a huge favour since my IT department would probably be forced to admit that running IE 6 is not acceptable. Our own webpages donât work properly through the web browser they force us to use.
A dollar says your IT guys are using the latest version of Chrome on their work machines. 
and for a few more dollars you probably can too. Pay the IT guys off.
Surely, Google shouldnât be relying on independent apologists such as yourself to disseminate this information, they should be announcing it ahead of time, updating their help pages in time with the changes, and putting out statements, not staying as silent
Lol. Apparently now an objective perspective on technology makes a person an apologist. I tell people who stubbornly insist on keeping ios6 the same thing.
Google doesnât do things like a traditional company and the best way to get help from googlers is to ask questions in forum for that product. Google Product Forums
^Thatâs where bugs are submitted and questions are posed on any google matters.
Google arenât saying a damn thing.
The forum post linked to in the BBC article would contradict this contention.
He links to a google property that tells you your current browser version and suggests the other browsers you could try. Seems pretty clear to me.
OK, thatâs a fair point about how recently it got security patches, but it still somewhat misses the point. Security patches fix discovered vulnerabilities, but they donât change the way the software parses code and which tags are supported. The codebase on which the patches are applied is 4+ years old.
Youâd be surprised how much changes code-wise between versions. As standards get updated some tags are added and some are deprecated. As a demonstration of this you often see code examples that only work on certain versions of browsers and as a developer you make decisions about how you want your product to function and which browsers you are willing to not support for the benefit of better functionality for those using newer browsers. Itâs a trade off.
This planned obsolescence where everything thatâs more than two years old gets thrown out is fucking annoying
If you truly have a problem with this you wouldnât purchase an apple machine. They are the GODS of planned obsolescence. In any case this is bullshit. You can repurpose any machine to be a linux box with minimal effort these days and there are so many good distros with familiar UIs that any old machine can be used with a recent version browser.
Portable firefox can be a solution. You can run it from a USB stick or, if your mean IT dept has disabled the USB ports, you can actually just stick the files anywhere on your machine and run from there. Portable apps donât require access to restricted areas of the machine so the IT guys will be none the wiser.
'straya - fuck yeah!
People say Queenslanders try to compensate for their shortcomings but I see no evidence of that here, nuh uh!
To be honest, Iâm exaggerating. They allow us to install chrome and firefox at our discretion, but to use our internal systems (like reporting your attendance for payroll) you have use an intranet with an old version of IE (the system doesnât work on newer browsers, not even on the most recent IE).
Or, I should say that did let us install chrome and firefox. Recently they decided to proactively install chrome on all machines to use to browse more modern websites (since for reasons given above they canât give us the newest IE). Of course in doing this they somehow disabled half the features of chrome. So itâs kind of worse than it was before they did that.
Thank goodness they havenât thought of disabling USB ports. And please, please no one tell them that I can code things in VBA attached to the back of Excel.
If thatâs what youâre doing, thatâs what I call it. And, please, youâre not whispering to computers here, youâre talking to human beings; even if you were being objective a little bit of empathy wouldnât go amiss. Donât be like the marketroid blandly assuring us that everything is âworking as intendedâ when a lot of people are inconvenienced and are mystified as to why.
Burying the information a couple of dozen answers down in a forum thread the day after making the change isnât really what I would call a pro-active approach to PR. Like making the change on a Friday evening, it shows a deep fear of public relations â of the public, even â that really shouldnât be a feature of a company of Googleâs size. As I said above, an announcement put out at roughly the same time they made the decision to do this âwhich I guess would have been several months ago â giving the timetable and explaining why they were doing so, would have been much less of an unpleasant surprise and given us much less ammunition for criticising Google. (And the lack of an update for the help page is a bit mystifying for a company whose stock in trade is management of information.)
And, as I also said above, I am already using the most modern browser this machine is capable of running; I know where to get more advanced versions and they donât work on this machine. I donât need to be patronised, thank you.
Pfft. Didnât need to, female and able to speak their language.
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Iâve defended their decision above but I will totally agree with you here. If they had made a press release saying, âWe are not going to continue to support the following browsers: x, y, z. You can continue to use our search on those browsers but as of today any new versions will not be rolled out. Youâll keep seeing the same search you see today into the indefinite future as long as you continue to use those browsers.â and then basically those browsers were grandfathered out then they could explain all of their reasons about page load times and bugs and whatever and I would back them pretty much 100%. To roll back already-working functionality from browsers in a stealth move suggests that they think they are doing something wrong.
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If itâs heavily armed and armoured enough, yes.
Actually, you could turn your machine into a linux box and run a modern version as I already pointed out. But the planned obsolescence (supposedly the thing you despise) of your apple machine means that theyâve deemed you canât upgrade your OS beyond a certain point. My 6+ year old desktop originally had XP. It currently runs 7 and would easily handle 8.1. I have unbuntu on a bootable USB key that runs on any machine as well.
Newsflash: They donât owe you or anyone an explanation for their actions. Itâs their product that youâre using for free. They can determine how they manage their affairs. If you have a problem you can vote with your feet. Theyâre comfortable with that. Since thereâs nothing even close to as good as google image search you really have no options.
Donât be like the marketroid blandly assuring us that everything is âworking as intendedâ when a lot of people are inconvenienced and are mystified as to why.
Who is the authority on whether something is working as intended, its designers or the users? The users can have their views but ultimately the designer gets the choice, and theyâre usually better placed to make the decision than the average user.
a little bit of empathy wouldnât go amiss.
Google is encouraging people to keep their browser with the times as it is considered the method of best practice for security, and new browsers allow pretty amazing things which google also wants to take advantage of. A machine eventually becomes too old to manage the applications of tomorrow. This is a technological reality, and railing at google or being annoyed Iâm not empathetic (?) doesnât change facts.
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