Oh, that sounds like a great book. I quite like hoiden
explains that a ramp was a “hoidening, frisking, jumping, rude girl” (a hoiden or hoyden was another word for a lively lass) while a romp was a “rude, boisterous, awkward girl.” If girls were supposed to be silent, still and submissive, it wouldn’t have taken much to be labeled impolite or overactive.
In my area, most places that meet the criteria in this video all have some barriers to entry. Bars have their regular crowds, barbers/hairdressers are still largely segregated, and restaurants that hold regular events can’t avoid the commercial pitfalls. Folks congregate in parks or at library events, but those fall short on the discussion/interaction part.
The most inclusive tends to be the local VFW. It’s open to non-members, attracts multi-generational groups to events, supports diversity, and serves a lot of regulars in the community. As a result, there’s a lot of discussion with a broad range of views/perspectives. The only pitfall is they do serve alcohol, but that’s optional and only at happy hour events (they host a lot of fundraiser breakfasts, luncheons, and dinners, too).
Making something similar reminds me of those clubhouses created in some new developments, which might be a starting point to consider:
I tried to screenshot it, but it didn’t take, but I got a little message at the bottom saying that is my first free article on the Baffler… that’s new!
I’m probably more interested in the harm caused by conservative & closeted queer people than the general population.
Also with him getting punched by Norman Mailer on the streets of the gay resort town - Provincetown. That’s an asshole fest right there.
“… if one feels no shame about being a homosexual, it’s considerably easier to be a homosexual than a heterosexual. Because you are separated from society, the weight of society bears upon you far less, and promiscuity is far simpler.” — Conversations with Norman Mailer
“With women, the difficulty is that any man who’s really a superb lover can be about 90 percent as good to a woman as a lesbian, just doing the things that a lesbian does and then he’s got all the other stuff. So the result is that lesbians do have a tough time ….” — Town Bloody Hall
Mailer on Stabbing His Wife:
“We all know that I stabbed my wife many years ago. We all know that.” — The Dick Cavett Show
Mailer on Rape:
“A little bit of rape is good for a man’s soul.” — Norman Mailer: A Double Life
Mailer on His Nether Regions:
Refers to his penis as the “Retaliator.” — The Prisoner of Sex