Manson family murderer recommend for parole, California governor says nope

[anon33932455]

@Otherbrother

If you’re of the opinion that more criminals shouldn’t even be considered for parole

Of course, I’ve not written that anywhere.

[moortaktheundea]

@smulder

California politicians may not understand how unpopular their state is in the rest of the country

That really doesn’t seem to matter. Our last president and the one before were both from states hated states.

@anon94804983

She chased her around and stabbed her 28 times.

Yes, and then she served 5 decades in prison. When the question was put before experts on the case, they didn’t think she posed a continued risk.

[anon33932455]

@moortaktheundea

When the question was put before experts on the case, they didn’t think she posed a continued risk.

and

@Brainspore

One of the central questions before the parole board is whether this 74-year-old woman is fundamentally the same person as the young woman who committed that crime.

These factors, though, are only one of the determining factors for parole (in fact it’s not even an explicitly-listed condition). There are three, the very first of which is (emphasis in original):

the circumstances of the crime for which the inmate was given the indeterminate sentence,

The other two are remorse and behavior in prison.

I’ve listed one source. There are others. This guide (a PDF) is more explicit in its first bullet point:

• The person committed the offense in an especially heinous, atrocious or cruel manner. Examples include attacking multiple victims, carrying out the offense in a dispassionate
  or calculated manner, demonstrating an exceptionally callous disregard for human
  suffering, or committing a crime for a motive that is inexplicable or very trivial in relation
  to the offense.

@Otherbrother

I think a “we should keep her in prison until she dies because it’s for her own good” line of argument isn’t a particularly strong one.

I’m not making a judgment to that effect in this case, because I think the “heinous crime” thing is primary, but “ability to reintegrate” is a factor the parole board is supposed to consider.

[Brainspore]

@anon33932455

These factors, though, are only one of the determining factors for parole

Are you suggesting the parole board is unfamiliar with the determining factors for parole, or is somehow less familiar with the details of this case than you or the governor are?

[anon33932455]

I’ve suggested pretty much everything I can suggest here. So in response to your question I’ll quote what I’ve already written:

@anon33932455

The job of the Parole Board is to look at the case from the standpoint of parole benchmarks and guidelines. And the job of the Governor is not to be a parole board. It’s to look at it from an entirely different perspective and make a decision. Oftentimes it’s a routine agreement, and that’s fine. Sometimes the Governor should disagree.

[kmoser]

During the 1969 killing spree, Krenwinkel pursued and stabbed Folger 28 times, Krenwinkel said in court testimony.

It’s bad enough that she stabbed her 28 times, but am I the only one who finds it even more eerie that she actually counted and remembered exactly how many times she stabbed her?