#NODAPL activists arrested after trying to shut off 5 oil pipelines carrying 15% of U.S. daily oil

I’d hope so too.

I think there is a communications problems between environmental groups and people who lean more right who also believe in the wholeness of the earth. How that gap is bridged, I’m not sure, other than someone actively reaching out and making it. [quote=“Max_Blancke, post:32, topic:87255”]
There is a lot of really nice wilderness out here that has been very well taken care of in private hands.
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No doubt. There is probably some land that is in private lands being exploited, which I’m sure you’re well aware of. [quote=“Max_Blancke, post:32, topic:87255”]
There is a pretty strong sentiment up here that we really do not need the sage advice offered by urban know-it-alls.
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I honestly don’t think this is the core of the environmental movement, especially out west. The assumption that the people who count themselves as environmentalist are a bunch of urban dwellers who are useless hippies or know nothings probably doesn’t help you make real connections with them. I’d suspect that many of them have spent time in the wilderness and studied it. I’d also suspect many of them would want to work together. [quote=“Max_Blancke, post:32, topic:87255”]
I generally find that I have a great deal in common with them.
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That’s great. I think if you want positive change, you have to actively reach out and make the changes you want in common. Being willing to compromise is a key part of that.

That being said, you do keep making some very stereotypical statements about hippies (as @bibliophile20 indicates with his comment below), who they are, and what they want. I’d suspect they probably stereotype you as well. Nothing positive will come out of that. If you want positive change that EVERYONE can live with (because those hippies are part of the area and community too and should have a say), then you have to (both) be willing to put your differences aside and figure out how to work together. A key to that is some active listening and some signaling on your part that you want to work together.

But, as an easterner and urban dweller, you can take or leave my POV. :wink:

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