Peak indifference has arrived: a majority of Republicans say climate change is real

sounds like a real trump-ist.

I take it that you aren’t a Wastewater Engineer?

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I’ve been expecting for a long time there would come a day when large companies start to see global warming noticeably impacting their profits. This is when the GOP will suddenly say, the evidence is now real.

Some folks will say, so admit you were wrong and the liberals were right for all these decades.

But without skipping a beat the republicans will say: for decades the liberals tried and failed to save the the environment. They are weak and ineffectual. But now we are here to save the day… as soon as you send us some money for our campaign.

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I remember an episode of the radio serial Chickenman where one of the characters commented on the star Benton Harbor, “Wow, a real religious fanatic!” I have American relatives that pretty much fit your description of the Evangelical you spoke with. So glad to be an atheist.

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I remember multiple Republicans in the Reagan administration/era joking about how “I’m from the government and I’m here to help” were the scariest words ever - while they were in government.

That is exactly their playbook for other issues so, sadly, I’m sure you’re entirely correct with that prediction.

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Exactly. I don’t feel like this is a particularly genius insight on my part. And yet I haven’t ever heard anyone else call this out.

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EarthStrike seems to be having the same problem too. The movement is split between the radical left and environmentalists who realise we need to do something NOW, and liberals who want to take thing slowly (as if we have decades to make a decision) and are scared by the idea of having a worldwide general strike for the environment (but still are involved for some inexplicable reason).

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Along with: your (gasoline/coal-generated electricity/etc) price is going up 37% to defray the increased costs we are incurring to save the planet. You’re welcome!

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Oh yes, and by waiting until things are really dire, the price to fix things will be substantially higher. Good thing politicians have out of work brother-in-laws that could use a fat government contract.

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A wastewater engineer was a congregate at my fathers church. He was an extremely pleasant man…

He smelled like fucking shit. All. The. Time.

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…because that would stop assorted corporations scrrewing profit out of whatever is causing it. And when there is enough money to be made out of trying to prevent it, again the govt must not be allowed to intervene, as this would dilute corporate profits to be made from that.

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Well that guys a good sport!

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“They’ll have to pry the CO2 from my cold dead hands.”

Sorry, that might be some other problem…

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I full well expect it will take a decade or so to filter down the the level of politicians, even if it is essential that we fix this now before it spirals out of control.

I dunno, I “believe in science” but find it hard to disagree with the quote, substituting the cold uncaring universe for God as I sometimes do as an atheist ex-christian. If our species doesn’t survive it is, by the rules of the universe, literally because we don’t deserve to. The laws of physics and not humans wishing really hard will decide. We certainly should try our best, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if we don’t make it because evolution of our social side hasn’t kept up with the rapid increase in our destructive abilities. But I don’t think it’s particularly wrong to note the factual statement that we’re just part of the universe playing the universe’s game. Humans have all kinds of flaws and quirks about how our brains work and how we socialize and how we view the world, and if we don’t evolve, we’ll die. My only hope is that it happen with as little suffering as possible. I think humans can be pretty amazing, but it’s not like I think the universe couldn’t do better because we’re also unfathomably terrible a lot of the time. I’m not going to go full on Bond villain but I can imagine that if we die off something else will arise in many millions of years that maybe doesn’t have our flaws, but still has enough intelligence, self-awareness, and gumption to be worthy successors and try to get off this rock, or at least pass the time more peaceably 'til sun goes red giant.

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It’s the living Earth responding to humans like any living thing responds to a parasite. Mom’s pissed and hell’s coming with her.

I thought we grew up knowing not to fuck with her.

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Yup.

The right recognises that an effective climate response requires socialism, and correctly view it as an existential threat to their ideology.

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Five Stages of Griefers

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