So you hope they work bugs out, but the US giving money to help work bugs out is evidence of them interfering with government and causing Ukrainians to get themselves killed. And maybe Obama was elected because of electoral fraud because those claims are just as [serious and widespread as in Ukraine][1], where over 66% of the people believed there would be election fraud. Anything that is objectionable anywhere in the world is at least as bad in the US, where people are routinely killed for protesting and double parking, just like they are in Ukraine.[quote=“time, post:262, topic:24467”]
The US, in many cities in the country, forcibly removed occupation protesters. Those parks were cleared. If protesters had picked up weapons and fought as did Kiev, many would have been shot. The parks would have been cleared.
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Shot like all those violent protesters in Seattle in 1999 and Toronto in 2010?
[1]: 2012 Ukrainian parliamentary election - Wikipedia[quote=“time, post:262, topic:24467”]
How many of those protesters picked up clubs and fought the police off? Again, you are confusing peaceful protesters to club wielding, cop bashing protesters. The later we have not had in any of those situations you point out. It we had, they would be dead.
Yes, you have to pick up a weapon and protest in order to have a legitimate thought. If you believe that armed protesters would not be shot in the US, show me.
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Again, protestors in Seattle have been armed. Police in Toronto avoided some of the armed protestors and simply let them vandalize property rather than engage them. Police in the US do the same. The police have let protestors overturn and burn cars and vandalize property rather than engage. Police could have instigated violent clashes directly with protestors, but they instead back off in accordance with the Madison Method precept that protecting life is more important than protecting property. Lethal force simply hasn’t been deployed against US protestors in a very long time, and there are reasons for that.
If you want to simply say that it’s because protestors in the US have not attacked the police with weapons, then I would ask you why protestors in Ukraine do feel motivated to engage in violence with police (and continue to do so even after they know the police will shoot them) while protestors in the US do not.
Here are some protesters who were armed and/or attacking police. None were shot.
2008 RNC convention:
2004 RNC convention:
OWS Zucotti Park
2012 May Day Seattle — cop hit in face with glass jar
