Semiautomatic handgun advocate shot and killed her two daughters

Well, I guess that just demonstrates the polarizing nature of these discussions, “you’re either with us, or agin’ us!” I was merely chiming in to say that guns can be needed on farms. (Hell, even without livestock, just merely crops, you might want a shotgun to scare away the crows. Although, good luck with that. Crafty bastards.) I’m certainly not saying that everyone should have unconditional access to guns. As to the quote from Space_Monkey, protecting livestock does seem to me a legitimate reason to have a shotgun or bolt-action rifle. (He says “at least.” Not certain why you’d need something more than those two, though.) This doesn’t mean I feel that there should be no safeguards to protect the public, that there shouldn’t be more effort to verify that there is a genuine need, that the user is trained, et cetera. I’m just saying it’s a useful tool for this particular situation.

No apology needed. I wasn’t that upset, just exasperated.

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