Texas cop suspended for body slamming 12-year-old girl onto concrete

[Mister44]

@hello_friends

If the point @M_Dub is patiently explaining is truly understood, then try charitably repeating the premises, evidence, logic and conclusion — for the sake of discussion ---- until there is shared acknowledgement of that basic understanding.

Like this?

@Mister44

I agree that minorities, the poor, and especially blacks are unfairly targeted by police. I also agree there are many cases where people were shot for zero reasons. I also agree that some forces have ingrained issues with racism.

@Mister44

I agree that IS a problem. I also agree that it IS hard to trust others based on the action of their peers.

@Mister44

I agree that cops are the epitome of “some animals are more special”. The system needs revised for better oversight of their actions, quicker reactions to bad behavior, and punishments that would equal what you or I would get had we done the same offense.

@Mister44

Again, I too agree avoidance is the best policy (but hey, I say that about all government entities.)

@Mister44

What if I told you there were cops who were NOT happy with the many of the bad shoots and violence cops are exercising?

^not my view, but again acknowledging the problem.

@Mister44

I’ve acknowledged and agree with pretty much ALL of the BAD issues that need fixed. I have acknowledged that some departments have systematic abuse issues.

@Mister44

Except I have agreed with pretty much everything that you say is a problem, is a problem.

@anon15383236

If you think that you’re effectively “reaching out” to people who are upset about systemic police abuse by derailing the discussion with an already-heard-it-many-times accusation that they’re branding ALL cops as monsters (even though they’re not), you may want to think about rethinking your tactics.

Different options isn’t derailment. Especially when I agree with the problems at hand, I just disagree in some of the attitudes reflected.

I didn’t just come out waving the “not all BLANK” card. The specific comment was about teaching kids that cops were “untrustworthy, lying, aggressive, trigger-happy thugs who will beat, maim, or kill you without warning, provocation”. There is a difference between telling them of the dangers in the world, with out labeling the whole police force.

But yes, I guess if you have an “us vs them”, black and white mentality, where I am either with you 100% or against you - then I guess one can see where one would feel it is derailment.