The rent is too damned high because money-laundering oligarchs bought all the real-estate to clean their oil money

This kind of situation is playing out in all desirable large U.S. cities, especially when their downtown coress are saturated with high-density and they’ve grown to incorporate low-density neighbourhoods that were once inner suburbs. The NIMBYs have valid points, and contrary to the stereotype of wealthy incumbent homeowners they’re also residents of lower-cost and rundown working class enclaves who are afraid gentrification will price them out as it has in similar situations.

However, the fact is that the cost of living in such cities has become more and more unsustainable for middle- and working-class people – the people who make a city work – without affordable housing (which is not and should not be the equivalent of low-income housing). One way or another they’re being pushed out to exurbs that aren’t served by mass transit, which translates to more automobile congestion and hour-plus commutes each way.

Since the cities are desirable and the trend toward urbanisation continues, the only sustainable plan to counter this is more high-density housing in formerly low-density urban areas (supported by developers but opposed by NIMBYs) and specifically high-density rental housing (anathema to both developers and NIMBYs). There is a nascent YIMBY movement that’s forming to support this view, so perhaps this will change:

In one way it’s also a signalling mechanism: if you have a lot of oligarchs choosing your city’s real estate as the place to park their cash, the message is that the city is vibrant, prosperous, safe, and benefits from in a liberal-democratic system of laws (as opposed to their home countries, where property is given and taken away at the whim of the autocrat or the permanent ruling party). That attracts more wealthy people and corporations looking to set up shop.

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Every year there is a concerted effort to reduce or remove subsidized housing where I live.

We need a new drainage system to divert the drool of greedy developers.

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IRL:

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Nope. 11% of housing is unoccupied in New York City. 5% in London. 4.5% in Toronto. (as best I can tell these are housing units that have no one living in them, not “vacant” units, which have no renter or buyer).

eta: all three cities have a booming construction market with scads of new condos being built.

In Toronto, where I live, despite 99,000 houses (4.5%) standing empty, the vacancy rate is a mere 1.1% - so there is a housing shortage while at the same time there’s a glut of housing that has an owner but is sitting vacant.

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The only thing that NIMBYs and developers share more of a mutual hatred for than affordable high-density rental housing is subsidised or low-income rental housing. Not that there isn’t real cause for concern, given the country’s ignominious history with subsidised housing (one that continues to this day: do a Google News search on “NYCHA”). But that’s more a matter of political priorities in terms of spending and design and hiring than it is a comment on the residents.

My sense is that the trade-off for more affordable high-density rentals is going to be what you’re seeing: the removal of subsidised housing, with the residents pushed into the far exurbs (McMansion slums) and the public land in the city then sold at a below-market price to any developer who promises to put up a new affordable rental building. The developers will like that, and the NIMBYs will take a brand new rental building over a public housing project.

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We’re in hot water, and this spin cycle is going to kill off some of The 99%, as inconvenient and in-the-way as we are.

Some of us will be left over for the pick and shovel work: fighting their wars, cleaning their mansions, caring for their children and elderly, picking their crops, and maintaining soon-to-be-privatised public infrastructure.

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Exactly.

I owned a condo apt once that was built where a subsidized housing complex once stood. They demolished all the former subsidized homes and divided up the land between a couple of “Lux Apartment” builders and left a small portion to place an new apartment building for some of the former tenants. Not sure who was deemed worthy of the new digs, perhaps they used a lottery system to place people. A couple hundred saved but, many more were pushed out.

Progress? /s

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Could this have anything to do with the problem? Rich people from China, Russia, and other countries “investing” into real estate in order to get residency permits. Walls are just for “your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” The rich can move as they please, no borders for them.

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I think we are very much on the same page.

But I would add that, in addition to intelligent intesification, a key component is legislation supporting affordable housing – ie rent controls and mandatory affordable units in new builds, perhaps tied to income.

Given that where I live we have just gotten rid of rent controls and the current government is hand in hand with developers, the future does not look promising.

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Oil money is illegal money because of sanctions. Obviously we have a good reason for sanctioning countries (even if the US is not much better in some ways) but it creates the same kinds of problems illegal drugs make-- huge profits and the need to make that money useful on the world market. If you have a billion dollars and can’t spend it, you may as well not have a billion dollars.

I often fantasize about some DIY alternative to oil, like if someone came up with an electric engine and batteries you could retrofit into a used car for cheaper than buying a new hybrid. That could cripple the oil industry if it spread fast enough that they couldn’t lobby it into submission.

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YES! This!

On my block alone there are three residences that have no one living in them. One is being renovated, and has been for over a year and a half, but the other two are just cold dark and vacant (and have been now for years). And then there’re two houses, one of which looks to be an illegal AirBnB and the other is only occupied half the year (and was taken over by squatters last year)…

And this is also a block where the houses are selling for 1.6 to 2 million dollars.

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Toledo, Memphis, Tulsa, Detroit, Milwaukee, and many others have already solved the affordable housing dilemma. Maybe they should be studied and we could apply their best practices to other cities.

What do they do so well? Did they ban Russian buyers? Do they have superior rent controls?

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This is why we don’t look to Twitter threads for deep analysis.

There’s an overall effect on the real estate market from a heavily load of investors who will reliably over pay any price for these properties.

It drives prices up for one. But it also drives prices up regardless of value, income potential, or what’s going on in the broader ecconomy. Much faster than it might go up otherwise. Look at New York City during the great recession. Property values and rents were talking nation wide. And it was predicted that this would happen in NYC. Instead rents and property values continued to go up, just slightly slower than they had been.

What this means is that this sort of real estate becomes of very good investment. The returns are much better than most other investments, and it’s shielded against market downturns. That attracts other sorts of wealthy investment.

Cities of this types tend to cap, or loosely control rent increases. In NYC mostly by tying it the expense of improvements to the property. To raise rents more than a capped percentage you need to spend a certain amount of money per unit.

Launderers may not care about purchase price, but higher rent is more money cleaned. But they don’t neccisarily want to spend to continually improve buildings or redevelopment. They’re seating turn key high cost properties. And the other investors do need to recoup their investment via rents. And to raise rents they need to improve the space, and often bump up the income bracket of tennants.

This creates a lot of incentive to convert existing housing stock, and target new construction to the high end, luxary housing market. Your multi million dollar condos and coops. Over middle class rental housing. Part of what defines that luxary housing is size. So units are combined (which also lets you increase rents). Reducing overall housing stock, or slowing increases. But mostly what you see is that ever more units are removed from the affordable, middle class housing pool. And moved into expensive luxary brackets for the wealthy. Housing stock becomes practically reduced for the bulk of the population even as units are added.

So the money laundering, with it’s willingness to always pay more for a building than it’s worth becomes a key peg in converting urban housing markets from traditional housing ecconomies. Into a high value investment market.

Yeah that’s why millennials aren’t owning. It’s a choice. They want to be free and not tied down! Collective living! Social!

Or it’s because millennials can’t afford to own. Between the fact that they have no money, have ruined credit from student loans, and property values are far to high for most to buy in.

Because there are often (especially in the United States especially) tremendous tax credits for losses in real estate. So while vacant properties may not generate income/ROI or clean money on their own. They allow one to keep more clean income from elsewhere (say from selling units).

One great way to generate losses is vacancy, another is improvement. Which drives further conversion to luxary housing.

Since the market in these cities has transitioned from returning the investment (or cleaning money) via rents. To doing so via exponentially growing resale values. It becomes very good business to leave places vacant, writing off losses and keeping them available for sale at any time.

Additionally the rise of short term rentals, like Air B&B, means you can often bring in far more money. Without the strings of long term rentals. You keep the units available for sale at any moment. But still generating rents. Using vacancies and renovation to offset income from short term rentals.

All of which further removes housing from the available, affordable pool.

Restrictions in supply lead to rising rents overall. So where there is available housing it becomes more expensive than most can afford. Which drives further conversion to luxary market to attract people who can afford it. Further reducing the pool of available housing.

It’s basically a feed back loop of your fucked.

This is largely a feature of a handful of very large, ecconomics important cities. New York, San Francisco, and London are the classic examples. But the flight of middle and lower income residents, as well as young people from such cities. Is often a major part of what’s driving redevelopment of smaller cities like the ones you list.

And at a certain poiny they start to tip over into this market. Philly had this rapid turn around from sketchy (if delightful) and collapsing small City through the aughts. Into this rapid turn around and redevelopment with young people and companies relocating for more affordable space. And the last few years Jared Kurshner has been heavily investing in developments in Philly. And this investment unit market is basically the family business for the Kurshner.

So basically what happens is your major cities no longer see practical housing being built. That gets offloaded to nearbye smaller cities. Until those cities tip over into investment territory, and it moved to the next small city out.

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Funny you mention Amsterdam as all the iconic houseboats that line the canals for which the city is known were originally introduced as a solution to earlier housing shortages. Back in the day, houseboats were where the poor lived as they had been priced out of traditional housing. Now they are some of the most expensive units in the city.

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Yes, I actually looked into living in one, it’s not doable with my budget.

Back in the day you could just moor your boat somewhere and all you had to pay for was the boat. The people that did that in the 70’s got grandfathered in and now have a nice nest egg.

Now there is a system where you pay for the spot, the spots are limited and thus the price goes up. Just the boat is actually pretty affordable compared to a house, it’s the spot to put it that has gotten so expensive.

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There are a few of these in DC along side other houseboats:

But the district put the kibosh on having more of them so only a few survive as grandfathered homes.

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My pipe dream is buying a house boat, equipping it with a lot of solar panels, low power electric propulsion and some sensors. Then you can have it cruising around the Amsterdam canals at a snails pace, never needing a permanent place to moor.

You’d need to figure out a solution to your toilet that doesn’t involve outright dumping in the canal though, that is no longer allowed IIRC.

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We’re only 1 year removed from the “year of the renter”

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And that is something that the Casey Serin’s of the world discovered to their dismay during the RE crash. Rents adjust more quickly to supply and demand than purchase prices.

An even bigger issue for millennials is that many of them are already saddled with the equivalent of a mortgage payment in college loan payments. Add to that less stability in employment than the baby boomers had at an equivalent age and it is harder to take advantage of owning a house. Lower inflation rates also mean that there is less upside to fixing your housing expenses.

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