Trump.
People have been removed, albeit with less force, for being black, Muslim or just plain scary to a white person (judging by the stories I’ve been seeing for years) this is now multiplied by the Trump Effect which basically emboldens prejudicial arseholes to think they can get away with anything and nobody will say boo.
There may be enough coverage where he works that the patients can be seen without having to reschedule (unlikely but possible) so there is minimal disruption to anyone but the immediate victim.
The gentleman was not denied boarding, twice.
Your contention that the flight was oversold, which despite you claiming to be someone in the know, is entirely without merit as many point out. Likewise your “however,” bits of shruggery that want to presume the guy wasn’t yet boarded and so could be denied boarding.
Your rubbish does dovetail nicely with that bit of garbage secreted from the primary facehole of United brass, as they straight lie and try to smear the old man they had assaulted.
Where is BZZ anyway? Oh? United Kingdom you say?
You are not good.
Or his patients may die or otherwise suffer permanent injury. You’re still missing the point.
Ok buddy. Whatever you say. Congratulations on turning a civilized discussion into a personal attack on someone you know nothing about. Feel better now?
I, at no point said anything to defend United’s actions. I was merely trying to see, and explain as best as i could, the other perspective. There’s always another perspective, and it should always be considered.
I have nothing but sympathy for the poor man that was physically assaulted.
I don’t disagree. I was merely trying to fill in some information that the average person doesn’t know.
This is the unfortunate result of corporations allowed to swallow up competition, legal corruption (lobbyists), and the gradual move into fascism that we’re witnessing.
And, probably an employee who really, really screwed up.
Yes, odd that how frequently when these topics occur a dedicated, well informed ((not), as in, not over booked and not denied boarding) long-time lurker arrives to make sure the record is set straight. To do that by being certain that everyone knows that, while regrettable things happened, policy was followed and that makes it okay in a way.
Failing that, I hope you won’t forget to lay the groundwork for blaming a single employee, low-level, likely at the gate.
Best to couch that in terminology that shrugging blames all corporations for this, to offer the choice, of anyone but United.
Maybe get right on that, ok?
Oh, got that covered do you?
Lol, I didn’t attack you, just pointed out that you are not good at what you do. Your morality isn’t a question.
Bad take is bad:
So, they’re literally saying, “We did nothing wrong.”
That’s insane.
A man ended up unconscious on one of your planes. Perhaps there’s blame to be put on other parties (esp. the CAS officers), but stand up and take responsibility for what happened as a result of your inability to find a way to transport your own employees 300 miles without inconveniencing your customers.
A senior citizen was assaulted by O’Hare airport police at the behest of United Airlines, in the name of “compliance”. Replace “passenger” or “customer” with “senior citizen” and United CEO Oscar Munoz comes across as even more of a sociopath endorsing “they were only following orders” violence.
It’s Schrödinger’s Beatdown.
What will it take to collapse the waveform?
I suppose this is just standard cop talk, but I was struck by the Police Department’s statement above pointing out that the victim was Asian…
Photographing or recording other customers or airline personnel without their express consent is prohibited.
The police aren’t airline personnel, although otherwise it’s true, it’s hard to give consent when you’ve just been concussed.
Totally. If somebody gets inside my car uninvited and doesn’t immediately leave then I call that tresspass. But if I invite them I am not allowed to have them beaten up.
United staff probably have a procedure which says if all else fails, call the police but that procedure carries an assumption that the police will behave rationally.
Kicking a passenger off of one of your perpetually-overbooked planes in favor of one of your employees? That’s really bad optics.
Kicking a 69-year old doctor off of your plane to seat a stewardess, even after the doctor insists he has to be back at his job to save lives? That’s insanely bad.
Sending in the police to assault a 69-year-old Asian doctor who gets dragged out of your plane, covered in blood, to seat a stewardess, and then declaring it was his fault? I’m wondering if United (or their CEO) will survive 'til the end of the year. This is company-destroyingly-bad.
If crashing the entire Western economy isn’t company-destroyingly-bad…
If winning the Worst Company in America award in back-to-back years in a customer service industry isn’t company-destroyingly-bad…
If screwing up monumentally and dumping millions of barrels’ worth of oil into the Gulf of Mexico isn’t company-destroyingly bad…
Forgive me if I don’t think that a little assault and battery is going to do much.
Admittedly, wishful thinking on my part.
I will say, however, that the other companies you refer to here have very deep pockets; the airline industry has notoriously thin margins. Images of a bloodied, assaulted senior citizen being dragged from his seat aren’t going to help United’s stock or their reputation with travelers, who already loathe their habit of overbooking flights and kicking people off. If any other airlines have been eyeing United as an acquisition/takeover, this’d be a good time as their stock plummets.
I take great pleasure in their losses today.
