Well you did hurt my feelings a little bit, but I can see how I deserved it 
I didn’t mean to detract from the main point of discussion. The treatment of women described in the article is gross. It’s not far evolved from foot-binding, you are put through a lifetime of discomfort and degradation in the pursuit of some utterly meaningless superficial standard. Another example of Ta-Nehisi Coates’ 23 hour days. Just a waste.
Where I live these days I don’t think there’s any equivalent discussion about nasal fry or vocal whatevers and the level of discussion about gender in general is relatively mature, but the dynamic persists anyway. That’s all I was trying to add. Some of the responses I got, I felt like I’d been taken as saying “it’s equally bad for men and women” and noooooo. Nope. I was trying to disentangle myself from that and I appear to have made a mess. Sorry about that.
I can’t help myself though…
Well yeah, I said “it feels like” to acknowledge that it’s a complicated subject and it’s hard to be sure of anything, you don’t have to beat me over the head with it. But I did like the point made by a marine biologist who studies dolphins and whales - when we study animals we assume nature and expect nurture/culture to be proven, but when we study humans we reverse that. Either way, when humans exhibit a bias that is also exhibited by damn near every other animal in the kingdom, you can be sure you’re going to have your work cut out with it.
