'What the f*ck' — Elon Musk coronavirus meltdown on Tesla earnings call, 'Give people back their god damn freedom'

Amen to that.

Just trying to get people to not patronize companies that have supported Trump’s campaign is difficult enough.

I support orgs that try to do the right thing in spite of who leads them. Because in many of these categories, your choice is either “support a company with terrible practices”, or, “support a company with terrible leadership”.

I’d buy a Tesla in a heartbeat because they have changed the narrative on electric cars in ways no other company did before. Ditto for SpaceX. Musk deserves praise for kicking both the auto and aerospace industries out of their complacency and forcing them to get shit done around sustainability and reusability.

That is a whole other discussion from “Would I accept unsolicited twitter advice from Elon”.

The day a class-B nonprofit makes an electric car that’s competitive with current offerings, yay! Until then, One has to choose between supporting the forward march, or continuing to buy dino-mobiles. Kind of like, well, the tradeoffs one has to decide between for everything in life, including a certain upcoming election.


If you wanna call a company that has been in the gas guzzler industry for decades and decades an “electric vehicle company” and makes only a very very very small dare I say insignificant portion of its current revenue through electric car sales, and then tell me I’m being pedantic for having a different definition, well Mister44 – that is absolutely your prerogative! I happen to disagree with the definition, and that this is being “pedantic” as you say. :man_shrugging:

I regret that I have but one like to give to your post.


Er - I’m not worshiping him, and any praise I have isn’t because he is rich.

His facilitating the creation and success of Tesla and Space X are both commendable achievements (to be shared with many others, for sure.)

Make no mistake, I am not one of the people who fawns over him or every little thing he has done, and critical about some of his ideas, like Hyper Loop. I don’t think he is a super genius or anything. And I very much disagree with the tweet and rant referenced in the article. YMMV.

HA! Good point.


The whole god damn system of putting profits before human lives IS immoral. :woman_shrugging:


I feel like Hank really nailed this one.



I wish we could get the Muskists to understand that, but we have to get past the cult’s programming.


Conversely, there’s no reason to be cut Musk any slack regarding his pathological personal or professional behavior just because the companies he’s led have accomplished some impressive things.


My Dad, plasma physicist, would say, “Plenty smart, but not too bright.”


Hella right ON, Mindysan33.


I’m curious how you’d respond to @orenwolf’s excellent post above?

Elon Muskeg is just like all of the other rich little whiners when they don’t get their way. They need to get him a good nanny.


You’ve literally dismissed everything said without any actual rhetoric of your own. You are literally the one demonstratively intolerant of ideas and discussion in this case. I could go on about the many detailed reasons why Musk has, if anything, further entrenched the institutional denial and avoidance of addressing climate change by pushing it further into individual action and away from tackling the largest centers of the problem - and that his insistence that individuals must have individual cars of some form (that also have cars that he makes the race through tunnels he builds) if the opposite of the direction we must be going in to combat climate change… but again it’s falling on the deafest ears in the thread.


Right. Ideology is a hell of a drug.

Well, I read it and I disagree on some of what he said. @orenwolf is a wonderful person, but that doesn’t mean I always agree with him. HE hasn’t lost any respect from me for not agreeing with me.


This is true.

People focus on the “but electric cars for everyone will help offset carbon” but forget that electric cars for everyone a) requires so much rare earth metals that third world nations we’re currently strip mining raw for them will be further destroyed and b) maybe everyone doesn’t need a car anyway and the solution isn’t putting more traffic out there but designing better systems for people.

It really does amaze me how people are ignoring the absolute destruction of the earth going on to get these batteries in these cars. It’s bad. It’s really bad. And if we were to all switch over to these cars, it’ll be horrible for habitat destruction and possibly would require massive deforestation to find new deposits.


How about these companies? Not to mentiion manufacturers of golf carts, or mobility scooters. You may need to ‘no true scotsman’ harder.

Also, please note again he didn’t found Tesla, he only paid for the title.


His whole Twitter account today seems like very disconcerting ramblings.

Elon is now tweeting out shit that seems like he’s gonna be running afoul of the SEC again. Or he’s not gonna suffer any consequences at all, since he’s a rich white dude with a massive following.