When new liberal gun owners attack

I’ve been in therapy, gone through various anti depressants and haven’t had suicidal thoughts in many years. But I know that I can, and that’s enough to know to be careful.

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Well, if there was an easy way to get into that goddamned Koch compound…

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It’s interesting how the Richies don’t seem to believe in gun control as policy, but they damn sure seem to care about it a whole helluva LOT in their own homes and places of business.

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Yeah, where are the Republican Congress-critters introducing laws to allow anyone to walk off the street and into the Capitol with an AR-15? Surely having more guns there would make them safer /s

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I think we are in violent agreement with each other. I made my initial comment in support of someone else who was pointing out the fallacy of comparing owning a gun for safety with wearing a seatbelt.

No it doesn’t. That is not how stats work. Even if the stats you quote are true, it increases that risk on the entire population, not any particular individual. For example, stats say that smoking increases the risk of getting lung cancer. But the majority of smokers do NOT get lung cancer. For them, there is zero increased risk of cancer.

Um … I’m going to assume that you know what you’re talking about, and just phrased that really badly.

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Guns are doing a really really bad job of it then - because the percentage of guns/gun owners involved with gun violence against others is a rounding error to zero.

This meme - that guns make people stupid - is the silly product of our compulsion for oversimplification.

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You are crossing the streams. That part of the snow crash quote doesn’t have to be relevant to the gun in the article.

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The most likely consequence of that would be a lot of imprisoned or dead Black people.

Do you get why it’s a bit messed up for White America to constantly demand that Black Americans risk their lives so that White Americans might consider doing what is right?

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Why are you attempting to arbitrarily narrow the scope of the issue - whose water are you carrying?

Everyone killed, injured, or threatened by firearms is in scope of teh stooped.

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And I’m sure you know it’s more complicated than that, and of course I’m guilty of the same thing. The NRA of 1967 is not the same NRA of today; they were taken over by some hardcore gun rights advocates in the 70s because of incidents like the NRA supporting the Mulford Act. It probably didn’t hurt that the first person arrested under the Mulford Act was a white Republican.

It’s still bizarre that Reagan supported the Mulford Act, but was enough of a strict 2A advocate that the NRA endorsed him for President.

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A “strict 2A advocate” who was against carrying in public places and opposed civilian ownership of military weapons. Even pro-gun fundamentalism has moved further into Craycraytown

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Sure I do, but I’m not willing to get into a lengthy discussion about that will go absolutely nowhere… just like every other conversation about firearms on boing boing.

No shit.

They still don’t support anyone but themselves and their biggest donors, and today’s NRA is certainly no friend to PoC in general.

Let me make it plain:

The NRA IS NOT ON MY “SIDE.”
THEY DO NOT HAVE MY BEST INTERESTS AT HEART.

No, many people don’t seem to get that at all.

There always seems to be someone who expects us to do all ‘the heavy lifting,’ to be out on the front lines, to serve as human shields, and to willingly martyr ourselves “for the cause.”

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Amen. I will never own a gun, nor live under the same roof as one… because a few years ago when I was working a terrible job for a terrible boss with terrible coworkers, I suffered a sudden, incredibly vivid fantasy of going out, getting a gun, calmly walking into the office one morning, and just shooting myself in the head in front of all of them.

In a lifetime of clinical depression, I had never previously had a suicidal thought so compelling and violent. I don’t know where it came from. But no way am I risking putting the means to act on that impulse within my grasp if it surfaces again.

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Reagan also supported the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (though it wasn’t introduced until he was out of office). I guess narrowly surviving an assassination attempt by a clearly deranged man who was nonetheless able to legally acquire a handgun has a way of evolving one’s views on that sort of thing.

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Also can be used to paint you as irresponsible in front of a jury, if it ever goes off and gets you in trouble, as guns are wont to do.

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How on earth would either of them get into your pyjamas?

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Which sounds great, until you’re on the wrong side of that round.

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Here’s another weekly installment of the Armed Citizen on April 6th, 2018. Two of your round offs:

The Armed Citizen

The Armed Citizen is a collection of ‘I shot the F#@%er’ stories compiled by the NRA and published in their magazine, ‘The American Rifleman’.

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