Itâs a pretty picture but I still feel like thereâs a huge paradox to the film that doesnât make a lot of sense to me. Science or no.
Youâre right, the film has an acausal loop, it doesnât make sense. But then no film containing time travel has ever made any sense, so Iâm not going to blame it too much on that one. The only way for time travel to work in a logically consistent manner is if you are prevented from interacting with instances from your own past light cone. The only possible ways around these kinds of paradoxes are by creating alternate universes, but in that case youâre not actually changing the past, just creating alternate futures, there will still always be the past(s) where everyone dies, which doesnât make for a particularly satisfying narrative.
Another flaw in the graph is that the gravitational waves couldnât have originated from Gargantua directly, itâs in a different galaxy, would take far too long to get to earth (they canât travel faster than light), they would have to have come via the wormhole.
Iâm pretty sure that Interstellar depicts a âdouble closed time-loopâ or whatever it should be called. I prefer âMatroishka Stacked Paradoxesâ, or maybe thatâs worse.
Paradox #1 is Cooper interacting with his past self and initiating his own journey into space. The information that Future Cooper sends back is information that Past Cooper gets from Future Cooper. There is no external data entry point in the loop. Or, to put it another way, Cooper goes into space because Cooper told Cooper to.
Paradox #2 is Future Humanity interacting with Past Humanity to save Future Humanity. Again, there is no external force or effect that manipulates Humanity in that loop. Or, to put it another way, Humanity survives because Humanity saved Humanity.
Didnât watch Interstellar yet. Do you need graphics such as these to understand and analyze the film or can one see the film and enjoy it without itâŚ
I thought it was decent, and not at all confusing.
Thatâs the same thing, I called it acausal because the prime cause was the effect of that cause, therefore there was no original cause.
No infographs are necessary. I thought it was mostly pretty great, looks amazing, wonderful score, a few temporal paradoxes and occasionally over-sentimental dialog didnât ruin it for me.
The concepts are explained to a great detail in the film itself⌠to the point where it was frustrating to me.
My biggest complaints about the movie have nothing to do with understanding what is going on.
So, how does he get from Cooper Station to Edmundâs Planet at the end⌠driving a Ranger? The planetâs âa few monthsâ from the far side of the anomaly⌠using Enduranceâs bigger engines and fuel supply and hypersleep to cut down on resource consumption. Seems a tad optimisticâŚ
Not to mention that fact that sheâs raising 3000 babies single-handed⌠and itâs not clear how many years itâs been for her.
Just not sure heâs thought this one through.
Bit like the writers, reallyâŚ
Maybe the Ranger does have enough fuel (the two prior to that had their fuel depleted due to their proximity to Gargantua, they might well have had enough without having to worry about that), or maybe itâs not the same model Ranger as from the original mission, an upgraded version with a fancy anti-gravity drive or something that was built along with Cooper station.
She wouldnât have experienced any time dilation in relation to Cooper (or at least not much, just the bit from after she left him until she escaped Gargantuaâs gravity well), and what he experienced was all during his descent into Gargantua after they separated, once he was spat out by Saturn heâs back on the same clock as she would have been. So he probably âlostâ about 40-50 years on her in total - a guess based on his daughterâs age pre-black hole to death (less whatever she âlostâ coming out of Gargantuas gravity well).
Interestingly, if he were to go back and look at where he fell into Gargantua it would look like he was still falling into it, and it would take an infinite amount of time for it to happen, despite the fact that he had already been spat out.
edit: actually, my 2nd paragraph is wrong, there was actually very little time dilation between the two of them at all, it was only 40-50 years (plus the original 20 or so years from the trip to the crazy tidal planet) relative to the Sol side of the wormhole, the final scenes showed Cooper and Amelia in roughly the same time (so presumably there wasnât much more dilation from where they separated). So he would have arrived there quite shortly after he left her (from their POV), only months later.
I find a few issues with the graphic but itâs a nice start.
A theory I have on how the story might workâŚ
They mention beings that have evolved past the constraints of a single dimension (humans?). If at least one possible reality and timeline of humans survive and evolve in this way, they would be in a position to see and potentially alter any human reality and timeline. Theyâd be able to look at and exert influence on all of the timelines that have existed or possibly could exist. For some unknown reason, these beings wish to preserve/promote the timeline and reality represented in the movie. The theory posed in the film is that these beings would be able to alter the timeline(s) at any point using gravitational anomalies and could have created conditions to get Cooper and TARS into Gargantua the first time. The beings eventually create the quantum âgravity injection machineâ Cooper and TARS use to communicate. We are seeing an iteration of the loop that occurs after the first time this happened.
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