doctorow at September 6th, 2013 18:10 — #1
stephen_schenck at September 6th, 2013 18:28 — #2
300W spindle for computerized etching and milling of plastics and wood
You had me up until "can't mill metal." I know, added expense and all the jive, but the allure of an all-in-one machine is greatly diminished when it's actually not.
vvelox at September 6th, 2013 18:57 — #3
I am completely unimpressed. I can buy a way more powerful and larger milling machine and throw a CNC kit on it for 2500 USD and have 2500 USD left over for a really kick ass 3D printer.
samthebutcher at September 6th, 2013 19:15 — #4
I had to watch the video twice. The first time, I was too distracted, constantly running around the house silencing the BS detectors.
jmsaltzman at September 6th, 2013 19:43 — #5
Yeah a "machine shop" is where metal gets cut.
There's a lot of interesting stuff in this contraption, but they're trying to do too much at once-- feature creep got the best of them.
lynxreign at September 6th, 2013 20:37 — #6
It it sure looks nice, but one of the 4 creators had a completely funded & completely failed kickstarter just 2 years ago. Never came close to finishing the project or creating all the rewards. I think it was also featured on Boing Boing in 2011.
Since he's a major part of this, I doubt this will get finished either. I am surprised Kickstarter is letting it go forward. If you pledge to this, all you'll get is poorer.
On his last update to that project he admits he has no idea how much work something like this entails. Don't pledge, don't get ripped off.
codinghorror at September 6th, 2013 20:44 — #7
Can you provide URLs to substantiate these claims?
jim_kirk at September 6th, 2013 20:53 — #8
lynxreign at September 6th, 2013 20:56 — #9
Sure here is the project if you read the updates you'll see where he apologizes for not getting anything done almost a full year after his previous update. If you read the comments you'll see the people complaining they didn't get their things.
mtdna at September 6th, 2013 21:03 — #10
Are you implying that glomming a router bit onto a 3d extruder is a kluge? How dare you!?
jim_kirk at September 6th, 2013 21:04 — #11
Though it looks like the Kikori plans may be available here: http://www.sindrianarts.com/--not an endorsement, just FYI...YMMV...
lynxreign at September 6th, 2013 21:07 — #12
Making plans available is a far cry from delivering rewards or the actual project. That isn't what I or others paid for.
l_mariachi at September 7th, 2013 00:19 — #14
The lack of a coolant pump and mist collector (shop-vac?!) is a big red flag right off the bat.
technogeekagain at September 7th, 2013 00:27 — #15
On the plus side: Noting that both additive and subtractive processes need the same kind of x/y/z positioning platform is a good insight.
On the minus side: I'm not at all convinced I want the swarf from milling contaminating the printing process.
1) I think the shop vac is only intended as a swarf collector for the milling process.
2) Coolant pump/mist collector? I don't think I've seen those in other small 3D printers (RepRap and the like), and I know neither is an issue in small wood/plastic milling systems. They would be an issue if you were using a cutting fluid and milling metal, but that's explicitly out of scope for this machine.
l_mariachi at September 7th, 2013 02:01 — #16
That's what I was getting at, albeit indirectly. Plastic sucks. Real things are made out of metal, and plenty of it. Rargh!
vonbobo at September 7th, 2013 02:05 — #17
Can this make an army of minions for me? And can it do it quietly, in a small space?
codinghorror at September 7th, 2013 03:00 — #18
It is interesting to me how little of modern children's toys could even exist without plastic.
james_david_tan at September 10th, 2013 04:03 — #19
Much cheaper and funded Asks for a lot less. And pretty much as usefull
doctorow at September 11th, 2013 18:10 — #20
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