No scare tactics. I am just laying out the truth. If you sit out the general election, you are working very hard to bring us another disastrous conservative administration.
And nobody is disparaging Bernie. I voted for Bernie in the primary. I will vote for Bernie in November if he is the nominee.
Rational adults will support the Democrat in November.
Thanks for the insult but I am not a Democrat. Theyâre too far to the right for me usually. Bernie is the exception.
How are insults working as a vote winning tactic, out of interest?
but Bernie doesnât want to raise money for the party.
I think itâs wrong. You donât. How is it we share the same morality on this issue? Thatâs not derision. Thatâs a fact, and a fairly boring one at that.
the awful awful prospect of machine politics.
Personally, Iâd like to see Democratic majorities in state legislatures again, perhaps in time for redistricting.
Itâs NOT okay. What you consider to be moral I do not. In other words I consider the behavior of the Clinton campaign and the state Democratic parties to be immoral. I also consider those who justify this behavior to be immoral. This behavior is corrupt and immoral and I am stunned that anyone would try to defend it. Itâs indefensible.
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Why is it wrong?
I make a legal donation to the Democratic Party and they distribute it to the state and local parties. What is the moral issue here ? Where is the unscrupulous behavior, the corruption, the indecency ?
You keep asserting that itâs immoral, but you havenât come close to explaining why itâs immoral.
Reading comprehension is your friend. Frankly, I donât think you ever had a problem understanding what was going on in the above quote.
Take it personally. The election is all about your feelings. Forget the nation-wide and world-wide implications of your vote.
Itâs all about you.
Sorry but I vote for candidates not against other candidates.
If the Dems canât convince me to vote for their candidate, I donât vote for their candidate. Period. You canât just point to the other guy and talk about how evil he is. Give me a candidate that I want to vote for and I will.
We remember this, thatâs why we canât vote for another ClintonâŚ
Uhm, neither? Just like neither will vote against the TPP and neither will quit invading countries in the Middle East.
Doctorowâs hyperbolic paranoia isnât evidence of anything but his own bad faith and ignorance.
Yes itâs all about me. Nothing to do with Hillary making little more than token gestures and threats to people to the left of her party. I have seen what unquestioning support of a party to my right got in the UK; purges then Tony Blair (who was as bad as the conservatives). Lets not do that again, please.
She would be a Conservative in any other western country but America, and everything she says backs that statement.
I wonât directly tell people not to vote for her but I wonât tell them not to vote green or any other left wing party. If Hillary makes a considerable move to stop alienating those to the left of her party I might reconsider my opposition, but until then, no thanks.
Okay, I take it back. You probably never got past the headline.
Are you disappointed in Cory and Boing Boing?
No, not disappointed - itâs what Iâve come to expect. And I donât come here for political info.
raising money for downticket races and state- and local-level party organizations.
If an individual wants to give to downticket races, their money would be better spent elsewhere than Hillaryâs Victory PAC.
The first $2,700 goes to Hillaryâs campaign, the next $33,400 goes to the DNC, and the rest then gets split up amongst 32 states to a maximum of $10,000 each. So for your contribution of $50k to the Hillary Victory fund â to help all those downticket races â means that that South Carolina state party gets a whopping $434.37.
The Hillary Victory fund does not give directly to local-level party organizations.
well, when the country was founded, only white landowners could vote.
so quite possibly so.
If an individual wants to give to downticket races, their money would be better spent elsewhere than Hillaryâs Victory PAC.
Definitely.
the next $33,400 goes to the DNC
Which will ultimately go to support candidates and the party in general (ex. to pay for the convention). And yes, it helps pay the execrable DWSâs salary.
Remember 2000 in Florida?
A bunch of people decided to cast a protest vote for Nader instead of Gore, because of that you got 8 years of a Bush presidency.
A possibly avoidable war in Afghanistan, a ridiculously avoidable war in Iraq (eventually leading to ISIS), 8 lost years of action on stem cell research, many lost years of action on climate change (itâs still politically toxic).
There are hundreds of thousands of deaths that would have been avoided if those people had voted for Gore.
Now instead of Bush youâve Trump or Cruz. Cruz is bad enough but if Trump wins he could be orders of magnitude worse than Bush, his foreign policy positions include starting a nuclear arms race in Asia.
So Iâm sorry if you have to hold your nose while you vote for Clinton, but if youâre in anything resembling a swing state this election has massive consequences.
