British government will (unsuccessfully) ban end-to-end encryption

Don’t let the Opposition off the hook.

Labour has promised to back the Bill and its response was in the hands of Andy (ID cards, detention without trial, privatising the NHS is okay when I do it) Burnham.

The dreadful fact is that the LibDems were a restraint on government excess.


What I’d love to see is for every website that requires end-to-end encryption to just put up a page when someone accesses the site from the UK that says “Sorry, it’d cost to much for us to re-write everything to be less secure, and we don’t want to do it. Tell your government they’re being stupid.”


Let’s hear it for unintended benefits!

Now lets ban all other “products” to kickstart some maker revolution.

Yet more crap policy from the government. Tory, Labour it’s all been the same all through my lifetime.

If I could permanently get out of this shithole of a country I would. I don’t think there’s anywhere that would accept an anarchist trans-woman with chronic disabilities though.


In 1985, Orwell was proved right. Can we just rename the country airstrip one now and have done with it? Having said that, where in this bill is there a ban on end-to-end encryption? Closest i can find is they want providers to be able to access encrypted content for them? You can’t have a little bit of encryption for fuck sake! The initial bill reading seemed so reasonable didn’t it, with labour rolling over and showing their belly like the good little lapdops they are. You must be glad you got out of the country when you could eh, Cory?

People tend to underestimate the deviousness of totalitarian streak in every government. Our mental image tends to reduce them to the level of cartoon villain. In reality they are much more cunning than that. They might be dumb but they are not stupid. They know such law is utterly impossible to enforce in its stated form. But their goal is not to actually remove all such tech from use in UK.

Their goals is much more perfidious, create a legal environment where everyone even using a device or software with end-to-end crypto is by default engaging in illegal activity. This opens the door to legal persecution of such person purely on basis of use of such device regardless of content of information. There would be no need for them to break the crypto and peak in on your data. They can simply throw a book at you simply because they caught you using crypto in the first place. The possession of encrypted data becomes crime nough. This gambit creates environment where person basically breaks the law simply by engaging in (what are elsewhere) normal everyday activities. This is a sort of pre-crime. Ready made trap. Government can at their leisure spring the trap, and pull out a ready made charge.


Or all the new-fangled wiretap laws sprouting everywhere are a consequence of the Snowden leaks: All tapping done in secret is now hectically legalised.

Lending credence to the recent Jar Jar theory.


Giving legal backing to the stuff they are doing anyhow is also a goal. But than again they are at least forced to acknowledge it. At least this gives us hope of forcing them to make it illegal one day. After all you can’t ban something that (officially) doesn’t exist.


Be more worried about algos in the signal path. Bias and clipping are trivial to test for.

Don’t care if it’s exploitable. The point is twofold, and neither of them involves actually using these random numbers to send encrypted messages:

  1. have lots of people sending suspicious looking messages consisting of random noise, so they waste resources on it and can’t tell whether a given message is someone using strong crypto or just sending random noise

  2. have a lot of people publicly institute a practice of keeping random number collections on all of their devices, so any encrypted file has plausible deniability as a simple collection of random numbers. Everyone should maintain a personal random number collection.

These both require significant adoption to do any good.


Oh that’s priceless.

“Us? Illegally surveilling you? Why that’s… that’s… ummm… Hey!!! Look over there!!!”
“What? I don’t see anything?”
“Oh, it must have gone. Anyway everything we did was legal now. Bye bye!!!”

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Nick Clegg has stuck the knife in by revealing he was ‘totally shocked’ that only a handful of senior ministers were aware that the security services has been illegally spying on UK citizens for decades.
I’m not impressed with the political point scoring but it is at least one benefit of the coalition government that it is now coming to light.

The fact that this is retrospective legislation highlights that the intelligence services had access to this in the past but were unable to stop 7/7.

Part of the reason MPs are exempt from spying, is because their communications with their constituents (ie the people who elected them, and who they directly work for) should be kept private.
[Imagine you’d just found out that the security services were overstepping their bounds and hoovering up all manner of personal information, one of your first steps might be to contact your MP and have them raise the matter in parliament]

On the other hand, it looks like even if the security services had proof that an MP was committing a crime, they would be unable to intercept their communications (legally).

So it’s broken in all sorts of ways.

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It’s a sort of digital prohibition, only worse

I believe France had similar laws in the 1990s (?), the then current Windows Terminal Server had a special French edition with disabled or weakend encryption. Not sure when this law was revoked and how good it worked when in effect.

The Labour Right is determined to undermine Corbyn, and to do that they will even suck up to the Government.


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