Charter schools are turning into the next subprime mortgages

Gifs are fantastic alternatives to reasoned discourse!

It’s like she’s thinking, “Evidence? What?”

I think you missed my question above, because of gif’s or something. I’ll repeat it:

How many charter school board members, administrators, teachers, students, and parents have you spoken with?

Oh don’t worry, I didn’t miss it.

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So, then, what? You’re refusing to answer? I’m confused.

Did you teach them how to be passive aggressive too?

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Yeah Millie, why do you hate children? And puppies, I’m sure we can shoehorn puppies in there too.

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Let me summarize @anon15383236 for you:

/sarcasm <-[Seems like some people participating in this topic have a problem differentiating fact from fiction, so while I don’t usually feel a need to clarify my sarcasm I’m making an exception for this]

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So now, on top of all the BS, you prove you didn’t RTFA.

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When in doubt, Fe + H2SO4 :grin:

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Iron + Sulfuric acid? My chemistry knowledge is low sooo… this is a reaction I should know isn’t it? I know it creates some kind of light gas… oxygen/sulfur/hydrogen? And I presume it produces heat…

Yes.

First off, depending on what you mean by “special ed”, often one of the issues is that they are TOO nice and trusting (because they can’t read/understand other people well enough to know when they’re being bullied or conned).

Second, telling “at-risk” youth that the key to a successful life is being nice is idiotic. Sounds like some privileged white kid from the suburbs who graduated from college and couldn’t find work so they signed up for Teach For America and brought their inexperienced and inappropriate world view to kids who were probably rolling their eyes at the naiveté.

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Traditionally and into the foreseeable future, you have the option of sending your kids to private school, and no expectation that it would be subsidized by everyone else in your public school district (property tax money). With the advent of charters there’s an expectation that you can send your kid to a privately owned and operated school that’s subsidized by all your neighbors at the expense of your public school district.

Your situation isn’t average. We get that. What you aren’t getting is that your situation isn’t average.

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This is basic stuff. Charter schools cherry-pick, so that what’s left in the worst public schools are those students whose parents didn’t know to fight (or HOW to fight) for their children’s education. Even for those individual charter schools which are properly run (not a given), they do not improve education in an area. Instead, they actually ghettoize the education process, leaving the most at-risk lumped together with less funding.

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But but, how many charter school board members, administrators, teachers, students, and parents have you spoken with? /s

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Adding sulfuric acid to iron creates an exothermic reaction which produces iron sulfate and hydrogen gas, a nasty mixture, but only in the presence of water. If you mix undiluted sulfuric acid directly with iron, depending on humidity you might get a mild reaction due to moisture content in the air.

Anyway, for years people have used Fe as a tag online to indicate irony ('cause iron). Adding H2SO4 is my way to making it sarcasm :wink:

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Ohhhhhhh! Now I get it :blush:

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Well, that would have been an improvement over “actually aggressive.” But if I had taught them about passive aggressive behavior, I would have made sure they knew that it didn’t include simply disagreeing with someone and asking for evidence to support an assertion.

There was no “evidence” in the article to support your assertion that charter schools are “preventing at-risk youth from getting an education.”

It’s funny, because I actually know that there are some charter schools which are mishandling their at-risk youth. Just as I know that there are some public schools doing the same thing. But that’s not what public schools generally do, and it’s not what charter schools generally do.

My entire point is that dismissing charter schools out of a reflexive distrust of private enterprise is as useful and fact-based as dismissing public schools because of a reflexive distrust of government. And both attitudes explicitly ignore the families who are well-served by both.

This is true. It would be a problem if standing up for oneself and respecting others were mutually exclusive. Since they’re not, I’m not sure what your point is.

It’s funny that you quoted me and then misquoted me. Where is the phrase “the key to a successful life” in my quote? Misrepresenting the arguments of others is bad form, really.

Substance-free ad hominem arguments are a sure sign that you have no evidence to support your assertions.

And life is just too short for exchanges like that. I’m think I’m done with this discussion. It’s funny how subjects like these bring out the most conservative, unkind instincts in people who probably think of themselves as compassionate liberals.

Last reply. Some charter schools cherry-pick and some public schools do, too. You have a lot of assertions and no evidence, so this is as fun and constructive as a discussion about geology with a young-earth creationist.

Adios Amoeba!