Oh, I totally understand.
The behavior of Etsy is a great example of the “I got mine” attitude our culture/shareholders embrace.
Oh, I totally understand.
Quick question. If Etsy is so terrible as everyone here keeps crowing it is… are there any options beyond ebay and yardsales if you make things and want to share/sell?
A person could absolutely make their own website to display and sell items, but that solves only part of the problem. Credit card processing is intimidating, but it’s not like you have to reinvent the wheel.
From what I understand, the real value of Etsy to sellers is the exposure to potential buyers. I can build a site to sell things, but getting the word out about “Earleen and her handmade doggy dresses” isn’t all that easy. If Earleen is on Etsy, those who yearn for handmade garments for their dogs can search through all the offerings.
With her own site, Earleen will have to hustle a bit more to bring in the folks who want what she is selling.
ETA: I’m in the midwest, where craft fairs are all over the place, but just because a line of people is pawing your handmade items, that doesn’t mean a bunch of people want to drop cash for them. It’s really hit or miss.
And, lest you think that this is too silly an example, it’s from my life. I made up the name Earleen, but I was approached by a person who wanted a website to sell her doggy dresses. She had dozens in inventory and also took commissions. When she found out it would cost money up front, she backed out. I was much relieved when she told me she would “do Etsy” instead. I told her that was probably her best bet, and good luck with the dresses.
Since Regretsy is gone, I can’t find all of those old posts of mass-produced crap being sold as handmade with a 10000% markup… (Compare and Save?)
It’s a shame, because when Etsy started, it seemed like such a good idea. I guess it was inevitable that it would have to go bigger/more mainstream and openly allow the non-handmade/artisan goods.
I guess I just get confused with the whole “must grow” attitude of these sites- though, admittedly, business is not my skill set. Still- Ma and Pa’s Country Store* survived for two generations without growing. They stayed small, and continued to make an acceptable profit. They didn’t have/need to turn into Walmart. Is it just an insatiable thirst for more money that drives this?
*This is a fictional store, but they’re great and offer a wide variety of supplies and provisions at a reasonable cost with great service. Recommend.
Not much really, I have no clue how Amazon’s etsy knockoff site tolerates these crap peddlers.
I think you’re on to something with the “thirst for money”. I was surprised to see that Etsy had gone public, but I guess they must need that big infusion of cash in order to compete with Amazon’s new handmade market.
I imagine that they also didn’t want to incur the cost of all the extras staff it would take to filter out these stores, even with proactive users flagging them.
Not in my experience. I’ve been on Etsy since 2009 and it is the only site where I could count on a reliable flow of views and sales. Also, it is easy and very inexpensive to manage the store, even with hundreds of items listed. I have tried about half a dozen other arts/artisan sales sites and they are all basically rotting in the dust. They simply don’t have the same traffic.
I had tried eBay as well before Etsy, but it seemed to take much longer to build a reliable consumer base. Also, as far as art was concerned, there was absolutely no quality control so it got drowned in an avalanche of junk. One would think it could make the professional, polished artwork stand out in comparison but it really just devalued it, being lost in the ugly clutter. Etsy is a very visually appealing site, which makes sense for people who want to buy and sell art.
Even though I was never happy to see mass-produced stuff on Etsy- and disliked how disingenuous they were about it- I have never found a better alternative. So I can’t bitch too much
I regularly browse and shop Etsy specifically for homemade or small run things. I agree with those above who state that it’s much better than alternative platforms presently, which I think is primarily because it makes it very clear (and easy) to find a particular person or group’s work. Is the sorting and search the best? No. But it’s better than eBay, and it also seems easier to build trust – which is really hard when you’re only selling one-off items or art.
I actually welcome this, because the big shops that sell knock-off items are already easy to determine and this will make it easier. It also helps shops that produce more normal “goods” that are essentially like small-time manufacturers anyway – printmakers, woodworking, pottery, and so on.
Their IPO and stock looks completely normal to me. They came in high, and after the initial excitement, their stock is stabilizing around 15-20. Do they need to stay relevant and attract more people? Of course. Are they labeling and marketing something that has kinda-sorta already existed on Etsy? Sure. So it’s a smart business move, since they already have an audience.
My parents’ glass studio has gotten business through http://www.custommade.com/
Regretsy had that thing covered.
And since Alibaba is basically on etsy (with a bird on it), what’s the point?
That’s an excellent idea: why don’t you implement it?!!!
According to the linked article, this isn’t about authorizing cheap Chinese knockoffs ie. Alibaba, but connecting manufacturers (which are based in the US and Canada) with people that up to that point were making it all themselves but have realized that their sales have gotten to big to do everything themselves but have no idea how to mass produce. As someone who spends all his time sewing fleece squidhats this sounds interesting.
Amazing that no one said this yet: Shopify.com is taking off where Etsy left off.
Also BigCartel, but mainly Shopify.
Full disclosure: I’m on Etsy, have been for years, I’m on a “Team” even and am involved in the planning of Etsy Made in Canada Day. That all said: I sell 1000% more in person than I ever have on Etsy. My Etsy shop is pretty much almost always empty because it is all the things I hate about selling and none of the things I like, and IRL craft show are the opposite.
@nothingfuture - Aliexpress shops have been active on Etsy for years. You just need to know what to look for.
I just want to know how to filter that junk out!
You can’t. You need to become fluent in Ali-speak. Also, the tip off: they use the same photos on Alibaba/Aliexpress/DHGate/eBay - often different sellers using the same photos for the product but with what I call the “watermark war” - either its cropped out or badly covered with their own watermark. I like the lazy ones that don’t even remove the watermark. If you see dozens of the same photos, its imported from China. Google image search is good for this. Also, most actual artisans have their own websites too, go there, if they don’t have a shot of their workspace… well, I get suspicious. (Also manicures… no one who works with their hands can maintain a manicure!)
Now, some of it, I don’t mind, the suppliers specifically. Because maybe I don’t want to buy 10 or 20 cameos, maybe I just want 4. So Etsy is great for that. But if I want 20 I can get them on Aliexpress for the price of those 4 on Etsy.
Oh, like you said, I certainly know how to observe them. But they pretend to be based in the states and I desire to remove all from the search engine so their low quality trash doesn’t glut my search results.
The search is based on seller submitted keywords/tags and location… I don’t think you can…