Exposing the "Razzle Dazzle" carnival scam

[L0ki]

@stephen_schenck

How does this game survive in the era of smartphones? It seems trivial for a concerned player to snap a pic of each turn and be able to verify their count against the operator’s claims.

Because at that point the operator tells you to fuck off if you don’t want to get your legs broken?

Or as people have pointed out, if you give any indication that you think the game is being rigged, they stop rigging it and you lose quite naturally.

It’s quite cunning really. How can a mark complain about a game operator cheating in their favour?

[Auld_Lang_Syne]

At at least one point he added seven to the total. The numbers range from one to six. As a mathematician (who is bad at arithmetic myself), this was immensely frustrating until the reveal.

[Auld_Lang_Syne]

@Ericb

I want to see the dude that adds up dart scores in those tournaments play this game. He’ll have the score added up correctly before the scammer can even start.

Note that the mis-adding was done to keep things interesting. The game is a scam even when played fairly.

[petzl]

@Ratel

You’re mixing up the count of all possible ordered permutations* of the dice with all possible sums , which is a much lower number, since many permutations may sum to the same number. Is the distribution of the likelihood of those sums wherein the con lies.

No, the math is sound here. “48” is a special case. There’s only one way to get that sum with 8 dice. The odds of rolling “6” with each of the 8 dice is (1/6)⁸.