Thatās pretty sad, both for the instructor and the girl. I donāt know much about Uzis but from what Iāve heard the kick is pretty hard, especially at full auto - I think it was actually the gun that started this āshoot sidewaysā trend because that diverted the kick āupā to kick to the side, thus allowing more effective killing of many people instead of just killing of one really tall person. Presumably the instructor knew this and obviously should have been more cautious about letting a 9 year-old handle it at full auto.
Iāve never seen an Uzi, but I know that this is not the first time this has happened. Tragicā¦and dumbā¦and really unfair to the 9-year-old who has to live with what happened.
Thereās a discussion already underway: 9 year old accidentally kills instructor with an Uzi. Should it be moved here?
[edit] Ask and ye shall receive.
I donāt know what to say.
Yeah, safety sounds good. Just, why put an Uzi in her hands? Anytime Iāve been with guns, thereās been utterly strict guidance and instruction. I think this poor chap may have had a nanosecond of mental inattendance - he would have known perfectly well about the recoil.
Itās not a wildly high probability accident; but the fact that handing an inexperienced(and likely not particularly strong) operator a submachine gun is going to involve some muzzle climb should not be a surprise to anyone remotely qualified to be an instructor. Itās a bit hard to say for sure from the video; but it looks like she was using one of the versions without a stock for support at the shoulder, which is going to be even harder to control.
I donāt imagine that somebody is in the wrong place most of the time; but substantial deviation is totally predictable under the circumstances.
I probably should have put a sarcasm mark in there - I accept that the safety record up to that point was good, but the idea that you can put an automatic weapon in a nine year old childās hands is insane. The fact that this didnāt even break the rules of the shooting range is disturbing. Iām not against guns in principle, but they arenāt toys and letting kids use uzis is not a good way to reinforce that message. By all means teach them to use a lower powered weapon accurately and with respect.
Fair enough. I donāt particularly mind that they are mostly toys in this context, Iām just somewhat baffled by the thought process on the part of someone allegedly qualified to teach others.
With a suitably sturdy mount they could have put on āM-2 Monday!ā and let the kid blow through a few belts without incident, dangerous toys can be fun; but this just seems like such a magnificently poor match between the demands of the hardware and the capabilities of the operator.
The amount of burning stupid all the way down the decision tree is just staggering.
Sorted
Thereās this one too.
You reap what you sow.
What did you expect? Cāmon there is simply no good reason for a 9 year old to be handling an Uzi.
Perhaps there is a reasonable argument to made for teaching your child to use a hunting rifle, but an Uzi?
Bad decision on the part of the girlās parents, the shooting range, and the instructor. Plenty of opportunities to object to a clearly bad idea.
Sow. The idiom refers to planting crops, not rendering garments.
/pedant
Oh, I dunnoā¦ Iād say if you put a short-barreled automatic weapon in the hands of someone who lacks the necessary experience to control said weapon thereās actually a pretty high probability that something untoward will happen.
You know, like the instructor getting shot in the head.
Funny.
Iāve never seen the phrase in writing before. In my head inserting a needle into fabric seemed like a reasonable analogy to inserting seed into soil. It never occurred to me I was using the wrong word.
Well put.
There was no way anyone could have predicted this.
I disagree completely and vehemently. Putting a fully-automatic weapon in the hands of a 9-year-old? And letting her fire it with no additional support? Thatās beyond dangerously insane and borderline suicidal. This result is not simply predictable - itās pretty much guaranteed. There is no physical way the body of a 9-y.o. can safely control that kind of recoil - none. It was a near certainty that the force would knock her off-line and into a dangerous direction, and she would not have had the instinct (or capability) to let off on the trigger when that happened.
Let me put it bluntly: the āinstructorā died from his own stupidity and incompetence. He deserved it. He put that girl and everyone else at the range in mortal danger with what he did, and itās amazingly karmic that only he died as a result. Her parents should be investigated by CPS for doing something so irresponsible as well. the only person in this sad affair worthy of any sympathy is the girl herself - sheāll have to live with the mess that idiot created for her, when absolutely none of it was her fault.
Iām glad you didnāt take that as an attack or anything. As a back-yard farmer and a constant renderer of garments, itās a personal peeve to see this particular idiom mangled. And it happens frequently, it would seem youāre very much not alone in having believed āsewā was the acceptable end. So, thanks for not taking offense (and thus the preemptive tag).
Back OTā¦Seriously, what terrible parent would think putting a fully automatic firearm into the hands of their 9 year old kid would be a good idea?
EXACTLY correct. Iām a very experienced multiple-gun owner and taught my son to shoot when he was younger than this girl, with an age appropriate pellet gun, then .22 lever action. Because of safety, trigger and loading complexity, ANY pistol is a bad idea for early firearm instruction. Allowing any child, but especially a neophyte to fire a machine pistol, like a stock-less Uzi is criminally negligent in my opinion. Itās no different than strapping a kid whoās interested in auto racing into a Ferrari with the seat all the way forward, instead of a go-kart.
Luckily the instructor paid the price instead of the little girl, unlike the 8 year old boy who was killed in an identical accident a couple years ago.
