I resent that people here presume to act as enlightened gatekeepers of discourse, yet make little effort to persuade others to their way of thinking. That was one of the reasons Chickie said that they made this topic, to feel out ideas for less adversarial discussion of social issues. To resist the temptation to other and belittle and insult those who you don’t agree with. Which sometimes includes those who try to be polite and who are genuinely interested in communicating and sharing here. That’s how I see myself and my attempts at involvement here, and I am sorry that others can’t or won’t accept that.
It is easy to say that you know The Real Way that societies work, and maybe you do, but the burden of proof always seems to be one-way against those who don’t already share it. I can appreciate if that does not seem adversarial to you, but it can be seen as working that way.