I'm a victim, too!

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just in case you need a stock photo of a klan rally.

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Otherwise known as the Back-Handed Compliment:

ā€œOh, he speaks so well!ā€ Because Black people all speak only broken English, it’s a shock when one of us is eloquent.

Even though that was likely not the intended sentiment, the subconscious negative connotation is still there.

Kinda like the scene in the Color Purple when the mayor’s wife tells Sophia how ā€œcleanā€ her children appear to be; implying that this is atypical because ā€œusuallyā€ Black children are ā€˜filthy and unkempt.’

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It was the other way around for me… finally in my late teens/early 20s when my mom went to visit her parents alone for once cause that was how work and other schedules were happening. Anyway it turned out the grandparents were holding their tongues around my brother and I. There was remark at dinner in a resturant about how ā€˜dark’ Indianapolis had become and if I had been at the table I would have excused my self and got a cab to the nearest bus depot and then the bus home. Of course they then quit speaking to us for a few years when my brother was dating a black girl. A great grandkid broke the ice.

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There are cases where something’s enough of a can of worms (like using the specific label ā€œarticulateā€ for African-Americans when the term has some ugly history) that it might be preferable to find a synonym even if you mean no harm and are technically correct in the sense that you could make some kind of argument to justify the use. If you’re at the point that you need to self justify, you’d be better off having made a choice that wouldn’t have gotten you there. Most of us get that you don’t have a great feel for those social boundaries. When someone’s pointing that out for you, they’re really trying to help you understand a social rule/boundary, and aren’t accusing you of bigotry or anything like that.

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Imagine the following scenario:

Candidate Gerri Blowdry stands at the podium, smiles to the crowd and declares ā€œThe family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the state. (1) I will fight in Washington to protect your families! What I am defending is the real rights of women. A woman should have the right to be in the home as a wife and mother. (2)ā€

Her opponent Senator McRumplesuit at the opposite podium clears his throat and begins to explain his 75 point all work and no play make jack a dull boy plan.

Sometimes what might look like a strategy really isnt one at all. No one has gone over the message to see how it plays to the public even if it does satisfy all the political points.

Seems to be a much better way of phrasing my initial comment in this thread regarding the declared rights of the stereotypical SJWs.

  1. Cribbed directly from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights Article 16
  2. Direct quote from Phyllis Schlafly

This is incredibly sad to me, that this is often the case for many people in the 21st century.

(And not because I think you’re a bigot; I don’t.)

For all our advancements over the last century, our society is still so separate that we often can’t even see our similarities; only our differences.

Many people never have the chance to interact with others who are different from themselves, so their perceptions of others have less basis in actual reality, than in someone else’s slanted perspective.

And the really messed up thing is that it’s not by mere happenstance; this shit is intentional.

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I agree, but I did the web search only after I made my post, so it’s too late and I am not going to edit it. My first reaction was to check the dictionary of ā€œarticulateā€ to see if there was some obscure etymological connotation which had escaped me.

My searches also indicated that ā€œarticulateā€ is problematic when used by whites to describe blacks (yes I say black, I hardly know anyone who actually prefers African-American - there’s another tightrope walk.) But I wonder if it has the same connotation for other groups, or when used by non-whites. For future reference, I will put the word in my ā€œbe careful how you useā€ pile.

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Thank you for your kind words. :slight_smile:

I included the Asian/Indian/Jewish/gay bit as a bit of evidence. And now it’s just kinda weird. In my defense the only houses I go to are parents of kids my kids know.

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Understood; it’s much the same for me right now.

It just so happens that most of my kid’s peers are multicultural, so there’s a broad mixture of ethnic backgrounds.

If it’s not that diverse where you live, it’s understandable how you may not have had access.

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Of course. And I trample of free speech when I point out a bigot’s remarks about ā€œthemā€. Of course. I know how they play the game.

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Who doesn’t?!

Oh yeah, those guys. It’s called the family album…

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My opinions, or anyone else’s, are not made more or less valid by shouting them.

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Terrible opinions are no less shitty because they are proudly, calmly held and used to quietly bludgeon others.

An exception-free ā€œpoliteā€ society is a fearful, abusive society.

You just have nothing to be mad over, bully for you.

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Is that like saying that in the best case, you scold me for my ignorance, but otherwise prefer to frame my participation in the topic with vague aspersions on my character? I don’t provoke people out of malice. But I do try to encourage people to not shy away from discussing social issues, because nothing happens otherwise. For better or worse, we are always negotiating social space, and I strive to make that a learning experience rather than a divisive one.

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It’s called When Leftists Attack…

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It shows one asshole yelling at another asshole for… oh about 10 minutes. Politics never really comes up.

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Well. I guess I must retract my previous statement then. Points for consistency, though.

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I liked popo before it was cool :wink:

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The validity of opinions is determined by whether they’re based on facts. Just because you think you’ve been polite about it doesn’t make false accusations acceptable.

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