Who needs Daleks anyway?
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Aside from the main story why is a police officer moonlighting as a security guard? I realize itâs an incredibly common practice and, in an article I read many years ago an officer who not only moonlit as a security guard but wore his police uniform at his security job responded to questions with a huffy, âAre you telling me thereâs a limit to how much money I can make?â
Still something about police officers working secondary âsecurityâ jobs rubs me the wrong way.
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I have nothing against people working a second job(though, if the practice is more by necessity than choice Iâd obviously have concerns about their first job); but police officers areâŚtricky⌠because it is both reasonably plausible to have a âlaw enforcement experience preferredâ policy when hiring security and dangerously likely that one can curry favor with the local apparatus of state force, without anything that would legally stick as bribery, by being a steady provider of atypically well paid security jobs that are in practice open to cops only.
On the seller side of the bargain, itâs similarly sticky because itâs perfectly legitimate to sell oneâs time and skill/experience; but itâs all too easy(even without going as egregiously over the line as wearing oneâs official uniform, which youâd hope would violate so many policies it would make your head spin) to also be selling access to state force; which definitely shouldnât be on the market.
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Very good analysis!
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Alimony payments?
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And itâs even worse when the business is slightly, somewhat, or completely shady. Because those business often perceive a NEED for âbeat people up, no questions asked.â sort of security. Because when youâre breaking the law, violence is the only way of enforcing contracts.
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Depending on the city, and how long they have been on the force, cops donât make a lot of money. Unless they are dirty, selling confiscated drugs and guns on the side or taking bribes from The Kingpin.
IIRC the local cops start at like $35K. the average pay is around $40-50K. Not exactly poor, but but not exactly raking it in either.
They also get paid to sit on the side of the road with their lights on at night at construction sites.
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This is certainly a proportional response to tomato-stealing.
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The word âinverseâ comes to mind.
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You know how it is - someone starts off as a harmless mass shooter, progresses to organised crime and then if not stopped becomes a tomato thief. Somebody has to end this cycle of violence.
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A tomato. Jackass thought Carnegay had stolen a tomato. A fucken tomato. Uh, hey LEOs, have you ever heard the word, âproportionalityâ?
Mr. Carnegay is lucky he only had a tomato that dayâanything larger/more expensive and Johnny Law wouldâve skipped the beatdown step to go straight to the killâem step.
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If only Wal-Mart had Chinese crowd control robots instead of guards. The guy could have been sent a notice which he could be given a chance to reply to, maybe with a copy of a receipt instead of having a leg broken by a âguardianâ.
I hear in Japan robots will actually feed you tomatoes as you jog.
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We all know what it can lead to.
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In my area of the country, âaverageâ police salary is easily north of $100k. Base salaries are in the 51-65k range, and overtime puts them well over 100k.
There were (as of 2011) 23 state police making more than $200k.
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NYC? Iâve seen some places where it seems insane how much they get paid. Though I guess NYC has a lot of higher cost of living. Also I know some game the system and report massive, some times impossible, amounts of overtime. And of course any job with large unions is going to tend to be better paid.
But again, I would say most cops make much less than $100k
Letâs see⌠DOL says median is $58K, with the lower end being $33K and $96K being the upper end.
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Massachusetts.
Some of the âmedianâ stuff is reported around âbase salaryâ and doesnât include overtime (or details, or whatever), and in many cases overtime can make up 60% of an officerâs pay. So⌠yeah. Cops with a base of 58k can double that amount in actual pay.
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He probably resisted.
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My brother in law recently retired from the sheriff office and he regularly moonlighted as security for nightclubs and sports venues. Regulations not only allowed him to wear his uniform and weapons but actually required it. There was a list of âapprovedâ off-duty jobs that deputies could perform while maintaining their official authority. He derived a significant portion of his salary from these jobs in addition to mandatory overtime.
His real crime was Shopping While Black.
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SFPD starts at $81,380 including Academy training.
San Jose $83,824, $34.59/hr Academy.
NYPD starts at $41,975.
NYC and the Bay Area are pretty much neck-and-neck in cost of living, so I donât know the reason for the discrepancy. And itâs not like theyâre guaranteed a cushy Mayberry type beat in either place. It does go towards explaining the NYPDâs tendency towards dirtiness and its contentious relationship with any mayor who isnât Giuliani.
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I always have to remember to be override by default assumptions in cases like that. I grew up on Long Island; there and in NY have among the highest paid police forces in the country, starting in the 40-45k range (base salary) and over 100k within 10 years; overtime boosts that over 200k for some, with pensions after 20 years. Teachers in the school district I went to (considered below average by local standards, crazily enough) start at over 50k, rising to over 100k after 15 years, and in some cases over 130k including those who teach summer school or run after school activities.
Note: this is how well every profession should be compensated, and why we need more unions or just better labor laws.
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