Medicare for All would cut most Americans' taxes, creating the biggest American take-home pay raise in a generation

I think they will become more like a life insurance, so they will pay for death or permanent disability and missing income.
I suppose that in the USA there are fire and thiefth insurances.

In Italy it’s not the government that runs heath care directly. GPs are free professionals, you choose one freely and if you ask for things not covered, like visits for sportive wothiness you have to pay them. There are some private hospitals and even some run by the church.

On the other hand there are public services that are working weel. I don’t have any problem with the post office, especially when I have some savings and I like tobuy some poslal bonds…

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That’s covered under home owner’s and renter’s insurance.

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How about, “People at the DMV act like that because they hate working at a place that’s so understaffed, because it’s so underfunded.”

Damn, too long I guess. Ten words or fewer is pretty short!

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To clarify, each province administers the federally disbursed healthcare transfer payments. The Provincial Ministry of Health negotiates a schedule of rates with the private medical businesses (the doctors) for visits and various treatments. Healthcare regions are provided with funding by the province to operate their hospitals, build or renovate existing facilities, buy equipment and hire additional staff as populations in each region change.
The Provincial Ministry of Health has sweeping power to consolidate healthcare regions and adjust/fire regional boards, change supply structures and impose other “corrections” to the systems they finance. There are also many contracted services provided through the ministry and regions.
The system is not without serious issues but my family has had excellent outcomes from our various health problems and crises over the years. It’s been much better than the shit show my American relatives have been subject to.

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On top of the great responses suggested so far:

  1. Health insurance isn’t health care; the government isn’t going to be doing your appendectomy. Your doctor is.
  2. Administrative programs is exactly what the government is very good at. Ask someone on Medicare the last time that administration screwed things up. Answer: almost never. When did my health insurer last screw things up? Last week.
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Someone somewhere at some time and for some reason may get something someone else doesn’t get because they don’t need it but it tears them up anyway. Many of those now call themselves “Christian.” They may also be those enthralled by the “Chosen One,” Donald, support tax cuts for billionaires and despise the poor or stranger.Fascism is coming wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross just as predicted.naziUSrally

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Yes, thank you. Can I ask, what is “sportive wothiness”?

Right? That’s the whole problem, as I see it-
Maybe it’s just me but sometimes the lights turn off even before word ten.

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She’s probably aware of the first point and it would seem she’s actively contesting the second… thank you though.

My officemate, whom I generally like and get along with, is by lots of accounts a really intelligent person, so it hurts to learn 1) somehow she’s failing to see what appears to me to be really simple and obvious, and 2) she’s throwing this childish taunt at me 3) without knowing me well enough to realize that she’s not going to get the response she gets at home (which is, nod and say, “IKR”).

It was a complete surprise. Next time I want to be prepared. Btw we work in one of the most liberal states in the U.S.

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Oh. Then you’re dealing with one of the reality-denial types and no amount of evidence or rhetoric will affect her. Don’t waste your time.

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Then you’re dealing with one of the reality-denial types and no amount of evidence or rhetoric will affect her.

Eh it’s just words, i can afford them. But I know what you mean. Thanks

Excising parasites isn’t always painless.

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Case in point being the current crew in the White House…

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Sadly, the best way I know of to convert someone from a believer in our current insurance system to the new system is for them to suffer a massive health condition. Something that would kill you untreated, but only leaves you financially crippled and an emotional shell of your former self.

Do you work around any power equipment?

(ETA: That last part is me being sarcastic. Please do not maim or otherwise injure your co-workers or other humans, even the really, really bad ones who don’t support universal health care.)

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I mean, that might convert them on universal Healthcare.

Or turn them into a supervillain

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I think the parent wasn’t looking out for the well-being of said CEO folk. They’re invested in an industry and they’ll put their millions towards lobbying and legal dirty tricks to forestall any progress, truth, light or happiness. And if history is a guide, they’ll largely succeed.

Sadly, the best way I know of to convert someone from a believer in our current insurance system to the new system is for them to suffer a massive health condition. Something that would kill you untreated, but only leaves you financially crippled and an emotional shell of your former self.

Heh heh heh you’re probably right.

Do you work around any power equipment?

Worse, small children

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The really weird thing to me is that among M4A opponents, your first point is ignored, you second is pooh- poohed as irrelevant (to be fair, it isn’t really all that much shorter), and they pretend that M4A would bring higher costs than are currently paid, and think that the government would restrict access to doctors, while ignoring that their insurance company already does that. When you point out that no nation with M4A costs as much or restricts doctor access they either shut up or pretend that the US would do this, without giving a reason why.

It’s tragicomic, but “american exceptionalism” has morphed from being “well nobody’s done it because Americans haven’t tried yet” to “America works differently! What’s worked everywhere else can’t possibly work here!”

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