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Fixed that for ya, Doc.
You’re a staunch and wise ally, whom I greatly appreciate; however, it cannot be emphasized enough:
Women are consistently in more danger than men, even in our own homes or places that are well known to us.
I hate to say it, but that’s the (utterly enraging) reality.
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As I said above, the theory in the article is the most likely theory. But until more facts become evident, it is still just a theory. I suppose another theory (I’m just pulling this out of my ass) is that it is genetically coded and not emotion-based at all. So perhaps males and females look at different areas because that’s how we’re wired. Just visually alone females have several documented visual differences from males. It’s not inconceivable that yet another is default viewing field. But it’s just a theory.
All of science is essentially theory supported with varying amounts of evidence.
If you let go of a rock and it unaccountably floats off into space instead of falling to the ground you’ve just disproved gravitational theory. That doesn’t mean it’s premature to draw conclusions based on the evidence we have.
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Yeah, but what’s more likely, the theory supported by the research and all of the women in this thread, or the theory that was just pulled out of someone’s ass?
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It was in German, I’ll try and do some digging but my memory for German titles is terrible.
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That is useful information, thank you.
You absolutely are. Did you bother to read the white paper?
I doubt it.
I’ll say this one more time
The. Problem. Is. Men. Making. Women. Unsafe.
Not genetics or half-assed theories by randos about gender based visual differences.
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Not so much race but environment. My wife would not feel at all safe walking on her own at night in London, but is perfectly happy to do so in Tokyo.
(There are plenty of other behaviours that are normal in Japan society that would be dangerous in other places but that is another thread)
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Even though I’ve already stated twice that I personally believe the authors are correct, it’s been reputably published that it is important to control for sex in vision research. I might have exaggerated the degree of my ass pulling a bit. This is a genuine problem in visual research.
“It agrees with my position” or “it’s only common sense” is not how to determine if research results are scientifically valid.
You didn’t enter the discussion with “genuine problems in visual research.” You started by questioning the validity of the study you didn’t read because maybe it was looking at correlation over causation. Which is something that studies do all the time.
Now, hours later, you are producing a paper that points to mixed results in studies on sex-related differences in visual perception, and highlights the lack of comprehensive studies in the literature, and trying to use this as evidence to support your position while suggesting that the lived experiences of women in this thread lack merit. C’mon, man.
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Wait… women are just “emotional” and therefore more scared? Context doesn’t matter? REALLY? Dude… that’s not how people work. Trauma is a thing, not just some pointless emotion. And being harassed and threatened on a regular basis can cause these sorts of reactions to particular situations. It’s not hardwired, other than the fact that all humans can be come hypervigilant in the right circumstances. in fact, several MEN in this thread have noted situations when MEN become so. I mean, as a war veteran sometimes about that. They’ll tell you it’s not just that they’re emotional. 
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The Herzog article you linked makes clear that the differences in visual attention shown in the OP have nothing to do with sex differences in vision.
Then why are you tripling down on trying to derail the thread from that point?
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That is normally how heat maps work, and results in non-round, overlapping regions on the heat map. What is strange about this “heat map” is that many of the red dots are perfectly round, uniform in intensity (color), and surrounded by dark, which would only happen if they clicked the same number of times at the same exact spot. Doesn’t seem like something that would normally happen.
One reason to keep pushing for some physiological foundation for this result could be that it lets men off the hook-perhaps especially this poster-for the fact that women feel unsafe when walking down dark paths with many hiding places nearby. They might have to reassess their ideas about the world and their part in it.
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not that hard to find your answer. < 30 seconds scanning the paper:
For statistical analysis of the heat map images, each image was treated as an information containing matrix, as this is all a digital image anyway, a collection of pixels or “cells” representing red-blue-green color or grayness in the case of black and white image (Mazet, 2023; Nashville Film Institute, 2022).
the distinct circles result from the division of the pictures into cells. it’s similar to this sort of thing
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Thanks! If you remember any details, cool. But if not, gender + playgrounds + German should get me there!
You’ve been questioning the researchers’ methods and their analysis without having read the article.
You have no standing to tell anyone else how to determine scientific validity.
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Anything to distract from the actual problem at hand, the conclusion that is logically drawn even from such an imperfect study;
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I find this baffling. Don’t we all have mothers, sisters, daughters, wives, girlfriends, nieces, friends, etc…. I just don’t understand…
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