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I did a little googling, and the figure that came up over and over for doing dishes by hand was 27 gallons of water. Assuming US liquid gallons, that’s 102 litres.

We have a large double sink, each side of which can hold 28 litres* (7.4 gallons) brim full. So 14.8 gallons will fill both sides until the water is slopping onto the floor. In the real world we only fill one sink less than half full. Let’s call it 4 gallons, about the amount that a modern super-efficient Energy Star dishwasher claims under ideal conditions.

But 27 FREAKING GALLONS!!? I noted that the sites at the source of this claim tend to be manufacturers or manufacturers’ associations, and everyone just repeats it without question.This is self-serving bullshit at the two-months-salary-for-a-diamond-ring level.

We wash by hand, not because we are virtuous but because our kitchen is too tiny to fit a dishwasher. But having watched our friends load the dishwasher, argue about it, shuffle things around, fill the sink to wash the sharp knives, wine glasses,and heirlooms, wait an hour or two, and then put everything away, I don’t see the point.

Our situation is not everyone’s, of course. There’s just the two of us and we only wash the day’s dishes once per day. After hosting Xmas dinner, we’d be glad of a dishwasher, but fortunately we have family and friends who will voluntarily pitch in.

Again, every situation is different. My wife usually washes and I dry and put away, but if she has a cut finger or something the roles can be reversed, and if I’m on my own I’ll do the whole job. When our kids were at home they were expected to help as well. It typically takes 15-20 minutes.

*(about the size of a large raccoon)

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Individual circumstances is not the point, though. Of course there is households where housework is more equally shared… But the reality is that many women found these sorts of labor saving devices useful for freeing up their time from unpaid forms of labor that gets no actual respect for its importance. It used to take a very long time and lots of phsyical labor to do laundry, for example and washing machines changed that.

And far too often, the cruncy, granola world view dismisses that reality. Even today, more women end up doing a second shift of work with regards to housework, even though we’re starting to see some parity between men and women with regards to work outside the home and pay. :woman_shrugging:

As long as we live in a patriarchal system, this is still an issue that we need to address.

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True. The underlying issue is still there, which is that labour-saving devices are not labour-eliminating devices. Someone still needs to do the laundry, vacuuming, dishwashing and so on, even if they are easier.

But that’s for another discussion, and I’ve strayed too far from the topic already.

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distributed denial of… stink? it does sound win win. :joy_cat:

I wash my own dishes. and those of my lady-friend neighbour, when she invites me for dinner. but that wasnt the point I was trying to make.

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I wouldnt know about that, but when I make the dishes of a week at my mentioned neighbour (has a kid), its about 10 liters hot water in the one sink and about the same amount cold water for clearing in the other. and its clean afterwards.

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