I have to agree with @Dustin_Dopps, I worked those kinds of jobs during and after high school until I decided to go to college. They were stepping stones and now, pushing 50, I look back on those jobs as character building. They taught me a work ethic that I still carry with me today.
But I agree, minimum wage is fine for that person, but not for someone relying on it to make a living.
Weird, I can’t type the number nine…it comes out as a dash 9 <---- See?
But it was argued before that (in essence) ‘all full time work should pay your bills’, so I asked ‘Subsequently, should one fast food job pay the bills for a 10 person household?’ assuming the answer would be, ‘yes it should.’
However, that would be quite a lot of money, so would we also be fine with paying a single person the same simply because the job must be well-paying enough to sustain large families?
Well first - we’re just riffing here so- you can have free bread for all I care, but not gasoline, and certainly not pork and beef.
And that’s while trying to be funny about it; if it were about a heart transplant, costing hundreds of very sophisticated work hours and expensive materials, for someone who has not contributed much to the shared wealth of society, this’ gonna turn sour real quick.
If we ditched American Capitalism, and everyone was taken care of with universal healthcare and other progressive programs, paid for by taxes commensurate with payscale, this wouldn’t be an issue.
Yep. I could live off of what I made, but just barely. I rented a room because I couldn’t afford an apartment (literally, any apartment, which is a common condition among low wage workers). I also often had to choose between food and seizure meds, which meant I couldn’t legally drive, so yay one less major expense I guess 
And those were the good old days…
I agree. they should have let Dick Cheney croak, because he didn’t really share too often. 
Big, fat /s.
One issue would be that, on day one of the new utopian system, quite a few people would invest much of their mental energy in finding ways to game the system to gain extra pieces of pie for them and theirs.
Others would say, 'Sure everyone should be taken care of, except (group of people they hate,)’ and invest their energy in getting this implemented.
And of course, the great equalizing move works both ways, the people at the bottom would be moved up to a comfortable medium in wealth, but others, above the middle, would (perceive that they) have been moved down, and wouldn’t be happy with that (in the short term maybe, before everyone might agree that it’s at least far safer and less ‘teeth and nails’ now).
But an overwhelming majority of those people prospered under the implementation of white supremacist ideals of slavery, war, genocide, gaming the system for wealth retention, etc.
It’s widely and accurately documented, and truth.
To that, I say tough cookies. This would be a good start toward reparations…as in, to repair.
Bring the big hammer! – Why’s that? – We’re hammering the nation into a state of fairness, equality and peace!
(and everyone gets a government moderated social score to track how much they still have to pay off for the sins of their fathers).
In other words, minimum wage jobs are okay for spending money for teenagers whose parents still look after them, but ill advised for anyone else.
Good. Glad we got that sorted.
That really needed correcting to reflect reality.
in comparison since Bloomberg is spending $38 per second to buy the presidency, that’s $188 per 4.97 seconds (vs 1 penny)
I can agree with that.
Tell you what. Take all those people out of your society. I mean, according to you, they’re just a drain, right?
Where are you planning to eat? What are you going to wear? How is the gas going to get into your car… and how are you going to be able to drive it through all the bottles and recyclable shit littering the place?
I don’t even know what you do, but I would bet that you contribute a net less to society than your average minimum wage worker. The fact that you have time to shit-post on BB about how poor people are “worthless” tells me that.
That is an objectively false characterization of what the minimum wage was intended to be, according to the words of those who first implemented the concept.
If you are going to wave your hands and say “it’s not like people are supposed to be able to live decent lives on that kind of money” and don’t adjust minimum wage to match inflation then why bother having a minimum wage at all?
…and that’s just for those “lucky” enough to get the federal minimum wage.
Large numbers of service industry workers get sub-minimum, as do large numbers of agricultural workers.
And then we consider the enslaved workers in the prisons…
Coeur d’alene, ID is where I am at. University of Idaho did a study a few years back and determined that >20% of the population cannot afford to live here anymore. Most of the property and rent increases have happened in the last 15 years…downfall of living in a town that switched from mining/logging to tourism as the main income provider.
Why the fuck shouldn’t it?
You’re so terrified that socialism is going to pick your pocket that you’re willing to stand aside as capitalism murders your family and sends you a bill to dispose of the bodies.
