Monsanto weedkiller Roundup probably causes cancer (non-Hodgkin lymphoma), says WHO

I would take crabgrass over the dandelions and moss. I wonder how well zoysia would do in Seattle.

It would probably do OK with the earlier types. I have “Empire” a variety from Brazil, but you’d want to check out the japonica hybrids. Don’t mess with the plugs they sell in Parade magazine, use sod and spread chunks of it after it’s established. There is a dormancy period where it turns straw color in the winter - check your climate zone, and color coordinate the yard to include evergreen shrubs like hollies for the winter. And zoysia’s BFF is Roundup, which you use to kill back neighboring grasses to facilitate the zoysia’s spread.

Oh yeah it is a common grass where I grew up in St. Louis so totally used to the brown lawn in winter. But I do remember that stuff being good at crowding out just about everything else once it gets entrenched.

See, that’s the USDA zone 7a to 7b “transition zone” for turf grasses. Fescue? Fuck you! The heat and disease will eat that stuff like popcorn.

In the UK, and the rest of Europe, all pesticides are regulated. Glyphosate (Rounbd-Up) is just the Monsanto trademark, and one of the things about GM crops is that the contract for the seed requires you to use Round-Up. One of the regulations in Europe requires training of the workers applying pesticides, plus appropriate protective clothing.

This is an obvious example, but I have heard stories, both via cousins in the US farming industry and from other sources, of pesticide use in the USA: These chemicals are expensive, and they’re being used in dangerous and excessive ways . The site uses the Round-Up name, so it has to be Monsanto, it’s obviously in the USA from the volume measures used, and Joe Average homeowner wouldn;t be allowed to buy that concentrate in Europe.

Some of the pesticides I was allowed to use, because of my training, are rather frightening. Glyphosate is very specifically targeted at plants, and some of the chemicals used to make up the concentrate, such things as wetting agents, have a higher LD50 for animals. It’s possible for the non-Monsanto products to be different enough to matter for these effects.

I am not going to panic about this. It seems that everything can be carcinogenic with enough dose and a large enough population.

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