NAACP warns black people they aren't safe on American Airlines

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Bro, what do you mean? :wink:

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So are we sure this isn’t a case of AA treating all of their customers like shit and yes, several of them were black?

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Would you like to provide citations of non-minority customers treated as badly or worse by American? That would be the honest way to make that argument, if it is the one you are making.

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Well either way, their point AA isn’t safe for black people stands.

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Sorry Dave, this can’t be done.

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  1. An African-American woman and her infant child were removed from a flight from Atlanta to New York City when the woman (incidentally a Harvard Law School student) asked that her stroller be retrieved from checked baggage before she would disembark.

It wouldn’t be possible to fulfil the passenger’s request, would it? All the hold baggage would be unloaded and fed into the terminal’s baggage handling system, and the crew would need to empty the aircraft and prepare it for its next flight before the baggage had arrived at the baggage reclaim carousels.

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Most airlines will gate check strollers and have them waiting on the jetway when you deplane. Gate checked baggage goes in last and will therefore be the first to come out. Airlines do this all the time.

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NAACP gotta do what NAACP gotta do, but where does this leave us?

The AA share price did show a small downtick on the 24th, which may be the result of the announcement, but there was nothing exceptional in the trade figures, and the difference was made up again in a day. There don’t seem to be consequences to behaving this way in the great-again US. If you want to fly All-White Airlines, and avoid sharing a plane with other races, it might even be a selling point.

Icky.

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They should just go ahead and adopt Rob’s new logo.

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Yep. Her request should be the norm. I’ve flown with strollers many times and it was standard they took it before we boarded and had it for us as we got off. Any one who has a kid and a stroller knows they are like small mobile command units.

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Because algorithms are written by people using data collected by people which is then blindly followed by people.

Racism isn’t just the actions of individuals, it’s also the systems that have been historically built over time by living, breathing human beings to benefit some over others. Those systems, though they get embedded in our lives and imagined as just being CAN be changed and should be changed when they continue to perpetuate patterns that disadvantage particular groups of people.

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Dude it’s not one or the others. God, the NAACP can be an organization for a particular group of people and point out problems for that group of people. It really doesn’t have to be all about white people… It really doesn’t.

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Let’s attempt numeracy:

  • AA flies several hundred thousand passengers per day.

  • NAACP quoted four cases among those it’s been monitoring over several months.

Not shilling for AA: it’s a sucky airline and I refuse to fly it first class on my employer’s dollar.

But that goes to @Cunk’s point. NAACP came up a few million data points short on the measure of extraordinary evidence for extraordinary claims. I’ll humbly reconsider once the dataset and methodology are published.

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no. Try citations. Not dripping sarcasm. Not infantilization. Actual facts.

Thank you bric.

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https://www.consumeraffairs.com/travel/ameri

2,730 (minority and not) citations at the top of a lazy Google search.

Which is pretty pointless. Since racism is real. And AA’s suckiness is real. And NAACP advisory’s bulshitness - as published - is still real.

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